Covid cases in Saskatchewan vs North Dakota

[farmaholic]

There is definitely an element of concern in that last post.

[sumdumguy]

We have two parents in Long Term Care. Can’t say they are, “safe”. About 33 people, constantly changing people a day come in contact with the one mother, likely similar contact instances with other mother too. Many of these workers are young people from varied backgrounds. Just within the one nursing unit 33 people go to serve 62 patients a day. 33x62 contact points. Those 33 workers go home at night and stop at the store, touch their mailbox, pick up their prescription, maybe get on a bus. But since March 11 th. no one in our family was allowed into her unit. Neither mother has been allowed out to see the summer. Normally, we would take her out to the flower beds everyday, take her to the community gardens to walk, take her to see the Legislative flower beds and out to the combines. Our 96 year old mother’s clock stopped in March 2029 and she thinks there’s still snow on the ground from last winter. This 96 year old is a totally lucid, remembering everything person. Please explain to me how this life-saving strategy is helping her.

[chuckChuck]

I agree there is lack of personal responsibility in many cases for personal health with many people not taking care of their health.

But this does not apply in addressing the very high risk factors for vulnerable seniors and others with a compromised immune system through no fault of their own. Seniors are the highest risk group by far and make up the largest share of covid fatalities.

Its a stupid suggestion that somehow seniors should take all responsibility for protecting themselves in the middle of a pandemic. Everyone is responsible for not spreading covid to vulnerable seniors.

[farmaholic]

With all due respect sumdum, would she be better off under your roof if you had the willjngness and ability to care for her?

Physical, emotional, personal relationships might prevent the possibility. Glad my parents are still able to look after themselves with a bit of help from their kids, but at least they have a little more control over their exposure. They are by no means completely isolated. Health care nurse enters their home twice a week. And my siblings and myself aren't completely isolated either. Thats not possible. Mitigate as much risk as possible if you're at all concerned.

[Hamloc]

Hamloc quote "The biggest problem today is the average person can’t solve their own problems!!
Huh?

Please explain how seniors in nursing homes and assisted living and others with compromised health are supposed to solve their own problems when it comes to avoiding covid 19? Its pretty difficult to avoid the risk factor of aging don't you think!

Are you suggesting that the rest of us shouldn't play a role in keeping them safe by avoiding spreading covid 19 to the vulnerable by following guidance from public health officials?

The question is this Chuck2 is why I should answer your question, you never answer mine or anyone else’s!

I do however have a couple of thoughts in relation to your question. There is no doubt that early in the pandemic the fact that health care aides that worked in more than one extended care facility(had to to get enough hours) spread COVID between facilities and caused a lot of unnecessary deaths. The question is if I don’t wear a mask when I go to the grocery store does this put the person in the extended care facility at risk? My mother is 89 and my father in law is 91, neither is in an extended care facility thankfully. I am very mindful of where I go and what I do as I don’t want either of them infected.

The real question then becomes how to protect those in extended care? I would think any visitors must mask up. Somehow staffing issues must be managed to eliminate spread between facilities. So in short people of high risk must be protected and I believe the rest of the population must try to live as normal of an existence as possible. Did this answer your question Chuck2, still funny how you react to someone not answering your question LOL!

[jazz]

Putting older people under lock and key and isolating them from life will just speed their demise.

What keeps people alive in those final decades is purpose, connections and family.

What a ridiculous policy.

No older person I have ever known would choose that way to live in their final yrs. Lets take away all their dignity.

[sumdumguy]

With all due respect sumdum, would she be better off under your roof if you had the willjngness and ability to care for her?

Physical, emotional, personal relationships might prevent the possibility. Glad my parents are still able to look after themselves with a bit of help from their kids, but at least they have a little more control over their exposure. They are by no means completely isolated. Health care nurse enters their home twice a week. And my siblings and myself aren't completely isolated either. Thats not possible. Mitigate as much risk as possible if you're at all concerned.

It is always a consideration and her living with us is a possibility. But there is no trial period. Once she is out of the home, there’s no going back with Covid and a 2 year waiting period would be on the books for her to get back into this home (should her health deteriorate) where she has been since 2012. Your parents must appreciate your help and keep up the good work. Some day you may have to be maKe these tough decisions. The point I make is how are these 33x62 contacts a day safer than we are?

[jazz]

Seriously, the damage we have done to our society is basically beyond repair. This is the world the fear mongering has left us. God help us.

So done with this. Next person that brings up a scaremongering thread about this virus can f right off before they start.

[malleefarmer]

My situation, our localhospital aged care isunder a umbrella which encompasses three towns.

Pre covid guessing numbers 50 to 60 staff across three aged care units and hospitals.

Was alot of overlap between hospital aged care and staff meaning some might work at hospital A this week and aged care unit B week after, week after that aged unit c etc.

Now staff one can only work in one town and only work in either aged care or hospital in that town notboth.

Think until some time in october before restrictions will be eased..

Only people allowed to “cross over”are doctors and specialits.

As suggested above the option or suggestion was given made if at all possible elderly parents to move home with family if possible. Think only a few took this option.

We did. Was just common sense for us. Next to hospital meals onbwheels daily medical checks by same two staff members 5 days a week. Other servics offered.

Again a guess think our state has 475 cases 469 recovered 4 deaths. Was quite strict but basically normal life know. Before you question my maths there 2 new cases yesterday same as always internationals coming in from india i think to be with family. Isolate for 17 days on arrival there costs tested positive innusolation.

Think our population 3.5 million

[malleefarmer]

PS all meatworks in oz back going full throttle capacity.

Not sure how they cleaned up slaughter industry was one of the worst sectors for cv19.

But th ey have all good