Solar

[farmaholic]

I'm thinking "rEC" is power received from the grid and "dEL" is power delivered to the grid. Assuming.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If Chuck had delivered this information, this post would be on page ten already.....from him being attacked and he defending himself.

I would need to compare those readings to what this farm uses in a year.

I couldn't make any sense of the incomplete and cryptic information provided. Waiting on answers to the questions already asked.

The economics of grid tied to the solar owner are the least of my concerns. It is the economic consequences that the rest of us have to pay to stabilize the grid that is most important. Last I checked none of the solar or wind installations in Alberta have to provide dispatchable reserve, like all the other generation sources do.

[Klause]

Klause, there is a lot of information missing here.

#1. When was the first day of prod’n for these meters? As in ground zero.
#2. What does 365 represent, is that prod’n days, usage days, total days of operation.
#3. is this a year’s data, a day’s data?
#4. What was total cost of the system?
#5. How much taxpayer money was received?
#6. Actual prod’n here in Saskatchewan. Where in Sask. South East?

Please explain the data on the meters. What is 46000 kw/hr delivered?
Does the r on the meter mean reversed?

This data is kinda like climate change data. ( Incomplete information and leading to incorrect assumptions.)

All those answers are in the original post... But hey I'll restate them.


"Del" is kwh delivered to the grid system.(injected into )

"Rec" is kwh *from* the grid (pulled out of)



Sorry. My head runs faster than my typing a lot of the time so posts don't have all the info... And other times they sound like I'm mad when I'm not 😂


System cost $41,900 installed. Canadian made panels Fronius inverter.


The feds provided a grant. 25%. Also, since it's a farm there's also tax write off benefits.

This is the system my wife's family has. West central sask.

It produces power say in day out summer, winter. Panels are too steep to get covered in snow in winter, plus the sun's heat melts any off.

Only maintenance is changing their angle once on spring and once in fall which takes 2 people and an impact about an hour (six bolts).

The entire system has been trouble free for 2.5 years since installed so far.

We are installing a system here ourselves next spring... $22,000 for the equipment. Financed over 10 years $220ish a month. Our power bill is $265 a month right now.
Once running, the plan is to buy a power wall or other battery backup so we can get rid of the grid, or be able to totally supplant it. Our power here is incredibly unreliable. We have outages every week. Some in winter have been 4-6hrs.



I provided this info as a real world reference to the constant arguing on here about solar feasibility... I'm not saying it works for everyone all the time, but it most definitly works in some situations.


If running aeration probably going to be using way more, farma.

[Sheepwheat]

Klause, please come back and explain! That post went over our dumb heads. I seriously have no idea what it meant, kudos to those of you who act like you know what he meant!

Don’t do this to us, Klause.... lol 😂

[Klause]

Klause, please come back and explain! That post went over our dumb heads. I seriously have no idea what it meant, kudos to those of you who act like you know what he meant!

Don’t do this to us, Klause.... lol 😂

Look up

[Sheepwheat]

Look up

Lol. Posted and left for a bit there. Shows how slow I type.

[farmaholic]

Lots of aeration fans here Klause. Sometimes running weeks on end(not all the same ones all the time).

I'll stick to my maintenance, depreciation and replacement comment.

I'm not arguing against them, because I'm think I would have to educate myself more to make a solid argument against them.

[burnt]

Maybe it will work out better there than here in Ontario.


"Ontario’s green-energy catastrophe

A transition to renewables sent energy prices soaring, pushed thousands into poverty and fuelled a populist backlash."


https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/09/17/ontarios-green-energy-catastrophe/ https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/09/17/ontarios-green-energy-catastrophe/

Get ready Canada. The architect for the Ontario catastrophe has graduated to ottawa.

[furrowtickler]

https://capitalistexploits.at/investing-for-the-greenwash-bubble/

This is an interesting read

[Klause]

No politics. This thread is about actual solar not politics and pie in sky arguments from any side.

[Robertbarlage]

What solar panal would you put on semis? To keep battery's up? I bought some from junky tire have 2 that work great but the others don't? Is there better made ones?

[poorboy]

So how do the other cost work on a Saskatchewan power bill?

I live in Alberta and Fortis is my provider and for a smaller farm their bill is based on the circuit breaker size at the power pole. On this breaker size I pay a distribution and transmission cost. On a normal month my bill is say $400. Of that $10 is administration, $260 is distribution and tranmission and $130 is the actual electricity cost.

If I hooked up my own solar panels and had zero power received from the grid, I would still receive a bill for $270 (administration, distribution and transmission). Just wondering how it works in Saskatchewan?

At $130/month actual electricity cost, that is the most that a solar panel system can save in Alberta, based on my billing above. There might be positive cash flow from selling electricity into the grid that I have not accounted for. The real savings will be from getting totally off the grid and then saving the administration, distribution and transmission costs.

Currently I think that a natural gas generator would make electricity cheaper than the power grid, as the rural gas coop that I belong to has a monthly service charge of $30 and the distribution and transmission costs are built in to the price of natural gas, use none and pay none. As solar gets more advanced and better short term storage, I could see backup natural gas generators being an integral part of the package here to be off the grid.