My favourite solar power article of the day

[Hamloc]

Looking through my favourite web sites this morning And found this one on the financial post: financial post.com/opinion/peter-foster-the-iea’s-solar-spin-cycle. The highlight of the article for me was that if all of the IEA’s projections of growth in solar happen by 2030 solar will only be supplying 8% of our primary electricity needs and therefore 2% of our overall energy needs. Coal will still be supplying 28% of our electricity in this scenario by 2030. Hydro will still by a wide margin be our largest source of renewable energy and fossil fuels will still be providing 76% of our total energy needs. Interesting read.

[chuckChuck]

So does this mean you are not going to have to freeze in dark Like you feared? That’s good news Hamloc!

[Hamloc]

So does this mean you are not going to have to freeze in dark Like you feared? That’s good news Hamloc!

Chuck2 you had a post recently about how COVID-19 is going to reshape the future of energy. This article puts some context to the numbers. I believe you stated that 80% of new electrical generation will come from solar. What I found eye opening is that all this promotion and bluster will only amount to solar producing 8% of the worlds electricity up from roughly 2% now by 2030. Yup definitely reshaping our future.

[chuckChuck]

How could renewable energy get to 8% if you say it doesn't work? LOL

8% is very significant considering the scale of energy systems on the planet.

So how long did it take for coal to spread around the world and power the industrial revolution?

How long did it take for coal to be replaced by other fossil fuels and electricity?

Did it happen in 2 years, 10 years, 50 years or longer?

[Hamloc]

How could renewable energy get to 8% if you say it doesn't work? LOL

8% is very significant considering the scale of energy systems on the planet.

So how long did it take for coal to spread around the world and power the industrial revolution?

How long did it take for coal to be replaced by other fossil fuels and electricity?

Did it happen in 2 years, 10 years, 50 years or longer?

Chuck2 I was referring to solar energy not renewable energy, we already have a tremendous amount of renewable energy in Canada in the form of hydroelectric power.

As for coal, as the article points out(which as usual you didn’t read) by 2030 28% of the worlds electricity will still come from coal, so to answer your question coal still hasn’t been replaced.

[chuckChuck]

Yes Canada is well ahead on renewable hydro. Its a great advantage for us.

As I thought, you don't know much about the history of technological change and how long it takes or will take. And neither do I. LOL

And for the record a large percentage of the worlds poor are still using wood to cook and to heat their homes. They are still waiting for any technology to improve their lives.

[Hamloc]

Yes Canada is well ahead on renewable hydro. Its a great advantage for us.

As I thought, you don't know much about the history of technological change and how long it takes or will take. And neither do I. LOL

And for the record a large percentage of the worlds poor are still using wood to cook and to heat their homes. They are still waiting for any technology to improve their lives.

Chuck2 in most countries coal fired electrical generation was shut down by either government legislation or government taxation. As for using wood for heat I have many friends and relatives that use wood for heat, I guess a lot of the people I know are poor, wasn’t aware of that lol!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck2 in most countries coal fired electrical generation was shut down by either government legislation or government taxation. As for using wood for heat I have many friends and relatives that use wood for heat, I guess a lot of the people I know are poor, wasn’t aware of that lol!

Turns out Germany is too poor to afford coal power too. So poor they need to import wood from Africa to replace the coal:
https://notrickszone.com/2020/10/20/environmental-****-of-africa-hamburg-power-plants-aim-to-deforest-namibia-for-power-plant-fuel/ https://notrickszone.com/2020/10/20/environmental-****-of-africa-hamburg-power-plants-aim-to-deforest-namibia-for-power-plant-fuel/

And Britain:
https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/16/hardwood-forests-cut-down-feed-drax-power-plant-channel-4-dispatches-claims https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/16/hardwood-forests-cut-down-feed-drax-power-plant-channel-4-dispatches-claims

And many others in Europe:
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/10/14/the-great-biomass-boondoggle/ https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/10/14/the-great-biomass-boondoggle/

[furrowtickler]

Yes Canada is well ahead on renewable hydro. Its a great advantage for us.

As I thought, you don't know much about the history of technological change and how long it takes or will take. And neither do I. LOL

And for the record a large percentage of the worlds poor are still using wood to cook and to heat their homes. They are still waiting for any technology to improve their lives.

Canada was maybe at one time ahead in hydro , but under the current environmental restrictions and First Nations issues I highly doubt hydro will progress anywhere in Canada in the foreseeable future.

[beaverdam]

We need small nuclear plants, not solar. Till then, we need to burn organic fuels,,, organic fuels that come from decaying plants and animals from thousands of years ago.

Lingering Legacy: Millions of Toxic Solar Panels That Can’t Be Recycled Destined for Landfills
https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp/

sorry with the dead link,,, here it is hot.

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp

[chuckChuck]

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/17/fast-facts-about-u-s-views-on-oil-and-gas-production-as-white-house-moves-to-open-alaska-refuge-to-drilling/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/17/fast-facts-about-u-s-views-on-oil-and-gas-production-as-white-house-moves-to-open-alaska-refuge-to-drilling/

[furrowtickler]

We need small nuclear plants, not solar. Till then, we need to burn organic fuels,,, organic fuels that come from decaying plants and animals from thousands of years ago.

Lingering Legacy: Millions of Toxic Solar Panels That Can’t Be Recycled Destined for Landfills
https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp/

sorry with the dead link,,, here it is hot.

https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp https://stopthesethings.com/2020/10/10/lingering-legacy-millions-of-toxic-solar-panels-that-cant-be-recycled-destined-for-landfills/amp

Fairly quiet about this post 🤨
Again not totally ditchin solar but this ☝🏾 is exactly the bad side no one will talk about . Or those landfills full of turbine blades ... must be fake news .
There is good and bad in everything.... it’s not all “sunshine and lollipops” but the green movement stays silent on this but bashes oil at every move .... it kinda ironic is all