Lentil genetics paid for with farmer check offs were gifted to other nations...

[farmaholic]

How dare you?

My bags aren't packed for Thunberg Tour guilt trips.
That is her jingle bucket, get your own.

[bucket]

Got SaskWheat check off and SaskFlax refunds in the mail today. Just SaskCanola yet.

Shame on me!!!!

You ungrateful bastard. ....better?

Hahaha

[Rareearth]

And other local exporters get exclusive rights to the better varieties

[LWeber]

And other local exporters get exclusive rights to the better varieties

...that you paid for the R&D.

Front of the class ...If you knew for how much $, you would puke, RareEarth...

[wmoebis]

This is nothing new. Back in early 90's I was in attendance when a group of farmers and dignitaries of the newly formed country of Kazakhstan and the AG Minister stood up and said he wanted to thank the gov't of Canada and it's people for supplying them with enough Wheat, Barley and Canola that they were now able to be self supporting. Now they are our competition all made possible with our help.

[TOM4CWB]

This is nothing new. Back in early 90's I was in attendance when a group of farmers and dignitaries of the newly formed country of Kazakhstan and the AG Minister stood up and said he wanted to thank the gov't of Canada and it's people for supplying them with enough Wheat, Barley and Canola that they were now able to be self supporting. Now they are our competition all made possible with our help.

"It's a wonder people like Gregor Mendel, Seager Wheeler, and Al Slinkard were able to accomplish what they did with what they had."

Al Slinkard was the father of Sask Lentils.... was a plant breeder from the US and a genius plant breeder.

If Sask Pulse/CDC Saskatoon, had not sold out a few years back... there would not be levies and royalties on pulse crops in western Canada anywhere today. If that were the case still... I would not begrudge sharing the pulses like the US did to help get western Canada going with good pulse genetics. Cheers

[Rareearth]

Oops unlike,

Wonder where the usa got its varieties from?

Anyway, wondering:
- how many Pulse varieties Sask Pulse growers released?
- very how many years?
- average cost per year to CDC, and internal employees per year?

What would be the average cost per variety?

Pulse growers wanted out of Pulse Canada because they could market better? Yet international marketing not core business activity of Pulse Growers. Plant breeding core activity or not? Now the university (CDC does breeding) with saskatchewan taxpayer money to compete against saskatchewan producers?

[Quadtrack]

Oops unlike,

Wonder where the usa got its varieties from?

Anyway, wondering:
- how many Pulse varieties Sask Pulse growers released?
- very how many years?
- average cost per year to CDC, and internal employees per year?

What would be the average cost per variety?

Pulse growers wanted out of Pulse Canada because they could market better? Yet international marketing not core business activity of Pulse Growers. Plant breeding core activity or not? Now the university (CDC does breeding) with saskatchewan taxpayer money to compete against saskatchewan producers?

125 varieties released royalty free for the up front funding total of 42 million. Over 25 years.
Was it a good deal for farmers? What is/has the pulse industry meant to SK farmers? Some years sales of Pulse crops have been in the billions...

This thread is very misleading. No genetics were ‘given’away. Read it. The Genome Canada project was about developing a model to determine which characteristics of a cultivar make it suitable for certain growing conditions.
And news flash, plant breeders all over the world have various reciprocal agreements for sharing germ plasm. How else do you introduce improvements? GM not being done in pulses (in Canada) so it’s crosses and back crosses.
Not sure what the motivation behind this thread is. Whatever. Not my issue any longer. Just be good to seek out some facts before jumping to conclusions

[dmlfarmer]

Hold on. Farmers are supposed to be upset because Canadian plant scientists have planted small plot trials of lentils in 9 other countries with different climates to learn the impact of climate on Lentil yields? Yet at the same time in 2017-18 Canadian seed companies exported $646 million dollars of seed (pulse and cereals) to over 100 countries around the world? Many of those varieties likely originated from Canada's public plant breeding system.

I will not identify the Canadian seed company, but points made on their website include:
-global supplier of special crops and select seed.
-they offer hands-on advice and answer to questions about the seed and the practices used to produce them
-they have the newest pulse varieties from the Crop Development Centre
-they offer the latest seed varieties.

Why worry about small plot research trials when farmers around the world can simply purchase the best Canadian seed from private Canadian seed growers/companies?

Consider too that many seed companies pursuing canola development for new canola varieties for distribution in Canada test varieties and rely on seed multiplication in south America during the winter season

And wasn't one of the reasons for getting rid of the board so that Canadian farmers could access and grow US wheat varieties?

It is this type of research that led to canola acres expanding south into the hotter, dryer brown soil zones, and soybeans, lentils and especially corn to move north into cooler regions.

So given global seed development and trade, what is your suggested solution LW?

[bucket]

125 varieties released royalty free for the up front funding total of 42 million. Over 25 years.
Was it a good deal for farmers? What is/has the pulse industry meant to SK farmers? Some years sales of Pulse crops have been in the billions...

This thread is very misleading. No genetics were ‘given’away. Read it. The Genome Canada project was about developing a model to determine which characteristics of a cultivar make it suitable for certain growing conditions.
And news flash, plant breeders all over the world have various reciprocal agreements for sharing germ plasm. How else do you introduce improvements? GM not being done in pulses (in Canada) so it’s crosses and back crosses.
Not sure what the motivation behind this thread is. Whatever. Not my issue any longer. Just be good to seek out some facts before jumping to conclusions

Interesting to see someone defend complete incompetence...the genetics were gave away and the market is in the shitter. ..

30 cents for reds is not a good price considering costs to grow them....