More airline bailout talk

[jazz]

Just as long as someone is flying to Vegas, AZ and FL, thats about all the flying I plan on doing.

In response to bucket/blaithin. There are two types of GDP. There is straight value added production based GDP. Thats things like digging resources out of the ground and selling them higher than your COP.

Then there is GDP churn. Thats something like housing, a giant money circle jerk that creates nothing but a speculative asset. You will find that canadas biggest industry is actually FIRE (finance, Insurance, Real Estate)

And where FIRE is the most rampant, you will also find the median household income $20k lower than areas where its not.

[wmoebis]

Land values have anything to do with profitability and viability?

Foreign capital has replaced or displaced young domestic farmers from owning land.

Oh they can farm it but may never own it, if that matters, to me it does.

Hard for under capitalized young farmers, even with help from their parents small family farm, to compete with foreign capital or even very large domestic farms or Hutterite Colonies that can absorb the over inflated land prices into large holdings.

I totally agree and understand. That is some of the problems identified for sure But again what is the answer? Blaming the gov't, who ever is in power, isn't getting us anywhere. What needs to be done, give producer groups direction if you want them to direct the gov't.

[bucket]

I totally agree and understand. That is some of the problems identified for sure But again what is the answer? Blaming the gov't, who ever is in power, isn't getting us anywhere. What needs to be done, give producer groups direction if you want them to direct the gov't.

Thee real problem is the fact the current issues are a result of what the conservatives did long ago...

This is the result of poorly designed BRMs. ...and the fact the conservatives would have to admit their failings...that's why you see a Ritz apprentice in as agriculture critic for the conservatives....

Nothing is going to change...

[wmoebis]

Thee real problem is the fact the current issues are a result of what the conservatives did long ago...

This is the result of poorly designed BRMs. ...and the fact the conservatives would have to admit their failings...that's why you see a Ritz apprentice in as agriculture critic for the conservatives....

Nothing is going to change...

We heard that in marketing it was the CWB that was the biggest issue and had to get rid of it so we did. But outside of getting paid up front and maybe a bit of delivery options are farmers better off. Not wanting to start a CWB debate but not sure if just telling gov't that one part isn't working so throwing it out without a carefully thought out plan to replace it is the proper way. So what is the replacement if we want deregulation and change?

[bucket]

We heard that in marketing it was the CWB that was the biggest issue and had to get rid of it so we did. But outside of getting paid up front and maybe a bit of delivery options are farmers better off. Not wanting to start a CWB debate but not sure if just telling gov't that one part isn't working so throwing it out without a carefully thought out plan to replace it is the proper way. So what is the replacement if we want deregulation and change?

Yerry Ritz And Lianne Rood did a phucking shitty job of implementing the open market....

You sign a contract now and there is no assurance it will move in the time frame and no penalties.

And now somehow what you buy for inputs at graincos influences the grade and price????

Yup really good system . Poorly implemented ....and the ag critic is stupid enough to put it on her resúmè...along with her role in the reduction in BRMs.

[tweety]

What tax cuts did a farmer get. Don’t believe there is any

Are you actually asking this or is it sarcasm ??

[Guest]

Are you actually asking this or is it sarcasm ??

well how many other buisnesses are working with 1970 prices for what they sell
is your wage same as the 70's
people like you need to wake up , mind you the wake up call is just around the bend

[Taiga]

Don’t worry Tweeter is an Ag Policy specialist, farmers are in good hands with him out front creating ‘Ag Policy’.

[tweety]

Don’t worry Tweeter is an Ag Policy specialist, farmers are in good hands with him out front creating ‘Ag Policy’.

You still an alcoholic?

[burnt]

Maybe I'm way off base again, but following this discussion - a very good one, IMHO - brings this thought to mind:

Ag, mining, O&G, forestry and industry are all wealth-creating enterprises.

And those are the industries that seem to be coming under attack by both government and other stupid people -taxes upon taxes, over regulation, subject to protest shutdowns, embargoed by our own nationals.

Yet it's largely consumer and consumer oriented business that gets subsidized? As well as ideologically-driven stuff like wind and solar?

What is wrong here - has contemporary society become so fat, slovenly and useless that it doesn't recognize what is of value any more?

See how long the rest of the country lasts when the necessities are choked out of existence. Gonna be a bloody awful painful wake-up call.

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