More airline bailout talk

[SASKFARMER]

Hey tweety maybe two years of zero canola going to China.

Oh wait others are buying then mark it up and sell to China.

We lost 2 dollars a bushel but who’s counting.

**** I hate stupid farmers

We’re getting handed our lunch by other countries and we play dead. We’re so proud of nothing.

[Oliver88]

There is an ad on the radio that says we are all in this storm together but we are not all in the same boat. Sure is a true statement ,most of the people in our town would light there hair on fire to get $22/hr.

Interesting, most farmers would be very happy to have an employee with their Class 1A for only $22/hour.

[Guest]

Hey tweety maybe two years of zero canola going to China.

Oh wait others are buying then mark it up and sell to China.

We lost 2 dollars a bushel but who’s counting.

**** I hate stupid farmers

We’re getting handed our lunch by other countries and we play dead. We’re so proud of nothing.

He/she isnt a farmer

[Blaithin]

Hey tweety maybe two years of zero canola going to China.

Oh wait others are buying then mark it up and sell to China.

We lost 2 dollars a bushel but who’s counting.

**** I hate stupid farmers

We’re getting handed our lunch by other countries and we play dead. We’re so proud of nothing.

What’s that got to do with Covid?

Yeah canola is a government sacrifice farmers are paying for, but can hardly say it’s because of covid.

I haven’t really seen Covid affect grain prices negatively. If anything it could be a driver in the prices currently going up. The real cost to grain farmers would be how the price of other things - inputs, parts, etc - have gone up and how some things take forever to arrive, if they can be had at all.

Covid hasn’t caused farmers to close their doors or only allow half occupancy or frightened away customers. It probably hasn’t required a large investment in new infrastructure for ppe for employees either. Has it made anyone miss work?

Costs are up, but is production down because of it?

Really if there’s a list of industry’s that have been fairly cushioned from the pandemic, Ag has to be on there. Especially grain. Even the blips in the packing plants seem to have smoothed out and I doubt any grain farmer would say they have it worse than the chicken or pig guys that had to burry entire barns.

[bucket]

It's about helping out when shit hits the fan....

Airlines auto dairy get handouts...

Irrigation farmers are rarely hurt but are receiving 40 bucks an acre. .

No fault of their own...

Dryland farmers get SFA with a drought or lower prices...unless you are 50 percent of a 3 year Olympic average. ..


You see where I am going...big picture stuff....not a myopic look at did a guy suffer because of covid. ....

Every industry other than ranchers and dryland farmers get the same help in a shorter time frame. ..

Feeders got a set aside ....will the cow calf guy get help as their prices fall....nope that's the market....

[Blaithin]

Do you need it or do you just want it because other people get it so it’s only fair you do too.

Life would be easier if I got the payments that some people do, but that doesn’t mean I need them.

[MBgrower]

The same amount that have been affected in the states that Trump has been throwing money at...

Which has distorted the market...

The airlines are just having a drought....why not analyze their books over a 5 year period and wait until they are done books and then average it out....

Why not an agristability like program to analyze the airlines issues?????

Use an Olympic average to calculate their losses? Take out the best and worst years and multiply by 0.7. I see no problems with that, afterall works for farmers? Agri retail employees who drive company pickups wouldnt know.

[tweety]

Hey tweety maybe two years of zero canola going to China.

Oh wait others are buying then mark it up and sell to China.

We lost 2 dollars a bushel but who’s counting.

**** I hate stupid farmers

We’re getting handed our lunch by other countries and we play dead. We’re so proud of nothing.

Canola not sold to China wasn't because of Covid.

Your costs are up because of all the data you provide to market more effectively.

Edit, should say mostly up. The rest is because they can, like lumber.

[farmaholic]

Use an Olympic average to calculate their losses? Take out the best and worst years and multiply by 0.7. I see no problems with that, afterall works for farmers? Agri retail employees who drive company pickups wouldnt know.

Isn't it.... calculate the o-limp-dick average....70% of that is the reference margin and you need to fall below 70% of the reference margin to trigger a payment?

[Oliver88]

Do you need it or do you just want it because other people get it so it’s only fair you do too.

Life would be easier if I got the payments that some people do, but that doesn’t mean I need them.

Depends on the farmer, some are going bankrupt/having an auction sale and the next guy is living large in his farm ghetto buying an electric powered SUV for 110k.

Every time a free trade deal is signed (USMCA, CETA, CPTPP) dairy farmers (Heavily based in Quebec/Ontario) get a negotiated payment.
USA has paid soybean, corn, wheat growers big $ to outlast the trade war with China.
It’s not unreasonable for grain farmers in Western Canada to want a payment similar to a competitor especially when our government causes a decrease in the canola income for several years due to incompetence.