And away we go off topic

[Jordy2323]

Only in your mind Jazz, only in your mind!

Today's news (NOV 10)

Hospitals in North Dakota are struggling to deal with a surge of new patients as the coronavirus continues to spread throughout the state. There were 10,865 active cases as of Monday (November 9) with 254 patients currently hospitalized. Over the past six days, the state has set new records for daily cases, with nearly 2,300 new infections reported during that time. Every county in the state is now considered high-risk for COVID-19.

To help alleviate staffing concerns at the overwhelmed hospitals, state health officials announced drastic new measures. Governor Doug Burgum said that nurses who have tested positive for COVID-19 but are asymptomatic can continue to work. He said the request came from hospital administrators and promised that they would take precautions to limit the spread.

https://www.iheart.com/content/2020-11-10-north-dakota-amends-order-to-allow-nurses-with-covid-to-keep-working/ https://www.iheart.com/content/2020-11-10-north-dakota-amends-order-to-allow-nurses-with-covid-to-keep-working/

Nov 9, 2020

Officials in El Paso, Texas, have resorted to using mobile morgues for mounting COVID-19 deaths as hospitals there hit 100 percent capacity.

El Paso County Judge Ricardo Samaniego will extend the city’s lockdown order, set to expire Wednesday, amid a surge in coronavirus-related hospital and ICU numbers over the last 11 days.

“It doesn’t look good,” said Samaniego, according to KFOX 14.

“The hospitals are still not manageable. We’re having an inability to manage fatalities … It leaves me no choice but to lean towards an extension of the order.”

Last weekend, El Paso set up its third and fourth mobile morgue units and Samaniego said a total of 10 will be needed to handle the backlog of deceased COVID patients, the outlet said.

“We’ve got two more that are coming up, and then four additional ones that will be given directly to the funeral homes,” the judge explained...
https://nypost.com/2020/11/09/el-paso-to-install-10-mobile-morgues-as-covid-19-body-count-rises/ https://nypost.com/2020/11/09/el-paso-to-install-10-mobile-morgues-as-covid-19-body-count-rises/

None of this is anything new. There has been many years, the flu has pushed hospitals to capacity. Which resulted in, no restrictions, no curfews, no buisiness closures, no mass media agenda, and also no mask mandates.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6377672/winnipegs-hospitals-over-capacity-flu-season-wrha/ https://globalnews.ca/news/6377672/winnipegs-hospitals-over-capacity-flu-season-wrha/

https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/ https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20190205/bad-flu-seasons-test-us-hospitals https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20190205/bad-flu-seasons-test-us-hospitals

[dmlfarmer]

None of this is anything new. There has been many years, the flu has pushed hospitals to capacity. Which resulted in, no restrictions, no curfews, no buisiness closures, no mass media agenda, and also no mask mandates.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6377672/winnipegs-hospitals-over-capacity-flu-season-wrha/ https://globalnews.ca/news/6377672/winnipegs-hospitals-over-capacity-flu-season-wrha/

https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/ https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20190205/bad-flu-seasons-test-us-hospitals https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20190205/bad-flu-seasons-test-us-hospitals

Jordy, did you read the articles you posted or just the headlines. None of the hospitals in the articles were over capacity as they are now. For example, in first article quote: "St. Boniface Hospital has the highest vacancy rate at 18.9 per cent as of December, 2019. Concordia has the lowest, at 8.4 per cent.
Kaminski says they’d ideally like to have 63 ICU beds available across Winnipeg, but currently have only 58 for no other reason than there’s not enough trained staff to operate them."

Second, much of the alarm was shortage of staff rather than hospital beds. In none of the articles were they at the point of telling hospital staff who had the flu to come to work anyway as the governor of North Dakota asked today of nurses who test positive for Covid but are asymptomatic. So me the science that says asymptomatic carriers cannot pass on Covid

Third, none of the articles referred to bringing in refrigerated trucks because the morgues are over flowing as is happening right now in El Paso.

Fourth and most importantly. Covid 19 does not replace influenza. The flue season has not even started and already the hospitals are overflowing. What happens when the flu season hits on top of Covid? If you are right that the health system cannot even handle the seasonal flu in the past then the problems are even more acute this year with Covid on top of the flu!

[malleefarmer]

Markets on fire again 101

[farming101]

Markets on fire again 101

52 month high in nearby soybeans today.
Price went through resistance going back to 2014. More resistance right here at 11.51 January
Looking for another 50 cents cwt in Dec bean oil.
Canola following...

Wheat kind of only recovering from near term setback

[malleefarmer]

52 month high in nearby soybeans today.
Price went through resistance going back to 2014. More resistance right here at 11.51 January
Looking for another 50 cents cwt in Dec bean oil.
Canola following...

Wheat kind of only recovering from near term setback

Huge slice of Ukraine tonnes.

China the key to everything at moment markets wise. Sadly we’re missing out with our spat between govts

Edit and even in a grain market sense the worlds a different place with serious talk of covid vaccine

[Jordy2323]

Jordy, did you read the articles you posted or just the headlines. None of the hospitals in the articles were over capacity as they are now. For example, in first article quote: "St. Boniface Hospital has the highest vacancy rate at 18.9 per cent as of December, 2019. Concordia has the lowest, at 8.4 per cent.
Kaminski says they’d ideally like to have 63 ICU beds available across Winnipeg, but currently have only 58 for no other reason than there’s not enough trained staff to operate them."

Yes I did.

In California, which has been particularly hard hit by this season’s flu, several hospitals have set up large “surge tents” outside their emergency departments to accommodate and treat flu patients. Even then, the LA Times reported this week, emergency departments had standing-room only, and some patients had to be treated in hallways.

The Lehigh Valley Health System in Allentown, Pennsylvania, set up a similar surge tent in its parking lot on Monday, in response to an increase in patients presenting with various viral illnesses, including norovirus, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and the flu. “We’ve put it into operation a couples times now over the last few days,” said a hospital spokesperson. “I think Tuesday we saw upwards of about 40 people in the tent itself.”

Second, much of the alarm was shortage of staff rather than hospital beds. In none of the articles were they at the point of telling hospital staff who had the flu to come to work anyway as the governor of North Dakota asked today of nurses who test positive for Covid but are asymptomatic. So me the science that says asymptomatic carriers cannot pass on Covid

We don't know how many nurses came to work with the flu, there could of been many that were asymptomatic, there was just no need to test.
Asking nurses who are asymptomatic to work, is a nothing burger. Even if you test positive for covid, but show no symptoms, it means you are NOT sick.

Third, none of the articles referred to bringing in refrigerated trucks because the morgues are over flowing as is happening right now in El Paso.

The el paso death rate is at just over 1%, with a large increase in hospitalizations coming from mexicans crossing the border seeking medical attention. The death rate is nothing out of the ordinary.

Fourth and most importantly. Covid 19 does not replace influenza. The flue season has not even started and already the hospitals are overflowing. What happens when the flu season hits on top of Covid? If you are right that the health system cannot even handle the seasonal flu in the past then the problems are even more acute this year with Covid on top of the flu!

The goverment has had 8 months to prepare, and has made minimal changes. Telling me that we are able to handle both simultaneously.

[Guest]

52 month high in nearby soybeans today.
Price went through resistance going back to 2014. More resistance right here at 11.51 January
Looking for another 50 cents cwt in Dec bean oil.
Canola following...

Wheat kind of only recovering from near term setback

101, do you think wheat will just get drug upwards with everything else at some point?

[malleefarmer]

Funny isn’t it guys USDA everyone’s enemy usually, today everyone’s best freind

[malleefarmer]

101, do you think wheat will just get drug upwards with everything else at some point?

Russia Ukraine etc key for tonnes

China not super active in wheat buying but could become important going foward i reckon.

Yields in oz just in the stratosphere not much happening locally rain over night another week maybe here yet

[furrowtickler]

Funny isn’t it guys USDA everyone’s enemy usually, today everyone’s best freind

Lol true , they just could not shuffle that many bushels anymore ...