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    #25
    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
    Without watching the video and simply posing a philosophical question....

    Do people need to own things to be happy?
    Philosophy is entertaining; however, it makes for thin gruel.

    Would the best test of your question not be a real-life trial run?

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      #26
      Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
      And had you linked to that site instead of a troll site viewers would have read that the video was 8 future predictions by 8 individuals from around the world. This does not mean the video is a blueprint of what the wef is planning or doing. As I am sure you are aware, Trump attended two WEF gatherings in Davos and CEOs and leaders of many global businesses attend Davos. So ask yourself before jumping on your high horse, is this the plan of business and governments including right wing governments like the US for the future or simply futuristic predictions by 8 individuals as it was presented on the WEF website. The statement: "'The Bigger Picture' may contain copyrighted material the use of which may not always be specifically authorized by the copyright owner" makes even more sense now!
      This is one time I couldn’t say turnip was involved because even if he was there he would have no clue what anyone was talking about. He d be thinking about how to con them all into thinking he was the guy to run this thing though and he probably would accomplish that with a few chants and watch the pendant swing deals. So ok I change my mind maybe he’s behind all of this. Which is why it hasn’t actually been successful.

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        #27
        Originally posted by burnt View Post
        Philosophy is entertaining; however, it makes for thin gruel.

        Would the best test of your question not be a real-life trial run?
        I doubt a trial would be a good test.

        There are those happy with less and those that require more. The trial would be heavily dependent on the nature of the individuals.

        There are those that need to own simply because they can, because the Jones’ do, because they’ve been told to, because they’ve seen it so now they must have it, or because they’ve been sucked into the loop of ever expanding costs vs production be costs.

        It would also bring into focus people’s definition of the word “need”.

        For that matter the word own as well.

        When do you own something. When you’ve paid money for it. When you have a paper that says you’re the owner. When you’ve made it...

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          #28
          Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
          I doubt a trial would be a good test.

          There are those happy with less and those that require more. The trial would be heavily dependent on the nature of the individuals.

          There are those that need to own simply because they can, because the Jones’ do, because they’ve been told to, because they’ve seen it so now they must have it, or because they’ve been sucked into the loop of ever expanding costs vs production be costs.

          It would also bring into focus people’s definition of the word “need”.

          For that matter the word own as well.

          When do you own something. When you’ve paid money for it. When you have a paper that says you’re the owner. When you’ve made it...
          Part of it may be determined by how much you value today and what you think happens on and after your last breath. Can’t take it with you they say? Should they bury the land deeds with you they won’t be yours anyway at that point?
          Can you take the happiness you’ve experienced with you? Love of loved ones? But to some maybe owning land was more than that? And maybe owning meant being able to provide more for the loved ones?
          I know lots of people near the end still trying to make deals and then others regretting to smell the roses along the way. Did they see the light to speak at that point if they did wish they’d let me know the what they saw.
          It depends I think what the real answer is as to what happens to us after the end of here and whether maybe or not if that’s just the beginning. If it’s just done then go hard and heavy here if it’s just the beginning are we judged as they say for what we do? Who will judge? Will it be yourself judgement in front of everyone else knowing what you thought and did before? Will there be someone or something else judging? What are the consequences at that point?
          Getting a headache this is too serious going back to monitor the chicken thread. Lol
          Last edited by the big wheel; Nov 14, 2020, 07:14.

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            #29
            Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
            BS! It was not posted by the world economic forum. It was posted by "The Bigger Picture" a youtube video channel with - get this - only 859 subscribers. Just because the words "World Economic Forum" appears on the pictures does not mean that the captions are the views or plan of the forum. In fact the poster even posts "This channel 'The Bigger Picture' may contain copyrighted material the use of which may not always be specifically authorized by the copyright owner"

            If you click on the poster's name it takes you to a Trump 2020 backdrop with lots of anti Semitic and fascist videos. If you then click the "about" tab you get links to 3 more anti Israel channels.

            No where is there a name of the actual poster or contact information! It is a troll site that has nothing to do with the World Economic Forum and is pure propaganda seeking gullible people to share its hate message. And there are those in agriville who share such bs without any questioning of it. As a farmer I am embarrassed by such gullibility by fellow farmers.

            Hamlock, on another post you asked why tweety posts here if he does not like the site or posters on agriville. I cannot answer for tweety, but this post is why I post. I know there is nothing I could ever say or do which will change the minds of Big Lentil, Oliver88, or Burnt or Jazz/Jordy but there are a lot of people who do not post that follow this site as well. And some will be caught up by lies such as Big Lentil just posted and will continue to share such propaganda. Hamlock, you (and even the Agriville administrators) may be ok with such propaganda being posted on Agriville but I am not and I will call it out when I see it. Afterall, lies repeated enough times becomes some peoples truths if unchecked as we have see with the past administrations "alternative facts'
            Watch this Sky News video on why its important to pay attention to what the UN, IMF and WEF have in store for us 'Jackie'.

            https://youtu.be/pF_kXE-HXSQ

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              #30
              Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
              Without watching the video and simply posing a philosophical question....

              Do people need to own things to be happy?
              Good point... Blaithin!

              My dear Departed mom and dad owned nothing of consequence when they died a few years back. Were they happy? I believe they were... except for a few nagging issues...

              My dad and mom farmed all their lives... dairy, then beef, then grain... ownership of assets allowed their children opportunities that enriched society in general and as well our community specifically.

              What made my dear dad sad as he laid his head to rest on that final night?

              Dad had been at a Revival Service... and the fire and brimstone preacher asked:

              Who here is ready for Jesus to return?

              A great cheer of yes we are ready went up from the audience!!!

              The preacher asked again...

              Who here is ready for Jesus to return... right now... this moment?

              Another great cheer of yes we are ready went up from the audience!!!

              The preacher asked:

              Who here is NOT ready for Jesus to return?

              My dear Dad was the only one to answer...

              Dad said in a loud enough voice the preacher could hear...:

              "I am not ready."

              And the preacher asked:

              "Why are YOU N O T... Ready for Jesus to return?"

              And my dear Dad said:

              "Because my Brother does not know Jesus..". with tears streaming down his face.

              The Preacher said: "That is a good reason!"

              Owning "things" in themselves does not truly make happiness... :

              How we treat others and the legacy / reputation of integrity we lived by...:

              Loving our neighbours as our selves... is what makes happiness:

              And having the faith to Know what will happen to our souls... when we pass on...to the other side of life...:

              That is true happiness!
              Last edited by TOM4CWB; Nov 17, 2020, 05:11.

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                #31
                RE: [Good point... Blaithin!]

                What did my dear Dad mean... by "know Jesus"?

                For those who want to know, please read this... the rest please skip over:

                John 17:
                1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
                “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
                Jesus Prays for His Disciples
                6 “I have revealed you 17:6 Greek your name to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name [17:11 Or, Father, keep them faithful to your name], the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by [17:12; Or, kept them faithful to] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
                13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by you truth...[17:17; Or, them to live in accordance with the truth]; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
                Jesus Prays for All Believers
                20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
                24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.
                25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you known [17:26 Greek your name known to them], and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”

                The Holy Bible, New International Version® NIV®
                Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.

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