Praise be to Farmaholic

[bucket]

I think it’s the time of year when people take breaks from online places.

When the season starts to shift and moods improve I’m sure he’ll reappear, recharged, with Ghetto news and marketing chat.

Interesting comment Blaithin....is that why they do online meetings for things like the code of practice...when fewer are paying attention?

[Blaithin]

Interesting comment Blaithin....is that why they do online meetings for things like the code of practice...when fewer are paying attention?

I don’t know how it applies to meetings. People may just be online meeting out.

But it’s a known thing with forums that from about December to March people start to get bitchy and stir the shit. Leads to many taking a sabbatical. You won’t notice so many take breaks on places like Facebook but you will notice people get crustier.

I’d think as long as they do advertising in places other than online platforms, hosting an online meeting this time of year wouldn’t be much different than other times. If you were to just rely on online platforms you’d be liable to just get miserable people wanting to fight.

[helmsdale]

He was starting to go covid crazy

Heck of poster tho !

Farma...

Last active Feb 8, 2021 @ 21:33... He's lurking... just waiting for that prime opportunity to pounce with some clever wit. We just haven't given him sufficient reason yet!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Farma...

Last active Feb 8, 2021 @ 21:33... He's lurking... just waiting for that prime opportunity to pounce with some clever wit. We just haven't given him sufficient reason yet!

Perhaps someone needs to post something about banana hammocks, or Chicken toques for under. Those seem to be his area of interest.

[helmsdale]

Perhaps someone needs to post something about banana hammocks, or Chicken toques for under. Those seem to be his area of interest.

*fishnet* banana hammocks... his heat of the ghetto go to!

[LEP]

*fishnet* banana hammocks... his heat of the ghetto go to!

I was thinking he is wearing a banana hammock on the beach. Careful not to get sand in your crack farma.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What about Bigwheel, Agstar, Grassfarmer, anyone keep in touch with them?

[bucket]

And where is hobby farmer???? I can't imagine what he is being paid for that organic crop right now....he has to beaching it somewhere...

Conventional farmers are experiencing what he does every year is what I am guessing...

[furrowtickler]

What about Bigwheel, Agstar, Grassfarmer, anyone keep in touch with them?

Big wheel was going hard playing whack -a-mole here in December after the election. Maybe hanging out with Biden now ? Just kidding wheel .
But agree Blathin , taking a break from any social platform is a good thing time to time .

Would like to hear grassfarmers opinion on that CTV link I put up though .
The movement against livestock as well is concerning but has been coming for several years .

[LEP]

Big wheel was going hard playing whack -a-mole here in December after the election. Maybe hanging out with Biden now ? Just kidding wheel .
But agree Blathin , taking a break from any social platform is a good thing time to time .

Would like to hear grassfarmers opinion on that CTV link I put up though .
The movement against livestock as well is concerning but has been coming for several years .

Especially when the regenerative ag people like to use livestock to reach their goal.

[burnt]

Everybody makes a contribution to the forum.

I miss farmaholic's.

Those heart-rending Slum of the Ghetto reports - well if it's that tough to make a living there, maybe we should pass the hat for him so he can pay his hydro bill and get back on the web....

[furrowtickler]

Especially when the regenerative ag people like to use livestock to reach their goal.

Was wondering how efficient and or effective is Regen Ag without livestock?
As I stated before , I think regenerative Ag is a great fit for some but should not be a model for all . Parts of it yup , but if it’s only truly effective with livestock it’s not ever going to be all encompassing with the new plant based idealists agendas . Food for thought .

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Was wondering how efficient and or effective is Regen Ag without livestock?
As I stated before , I think regenerative Ag is a great fit for some but should not be a model for all . Parts of it yup , but if it’s only truly effective with livestock it’s not ever going to be all encompassing with the new plant based idealists agendas . Food for thought .

That's depends, how many vegans do you want squatting in your fields (both figuratively and literally )Closing the loop on the nutrients.

[Blaithin]

Was wondering how efficient and or effective is Regen Ag without livestock?
As I stated before , I think regenerative Ag is a great fit for some but should not be a model for all . Parts of it yup , but if it’s only truly effective with livestock it’s not ever going to be all encompassing with the new plant based idealists agendas . Food for thought .

I think any healthy soil farming (which should be a goal on some level) is going to need some sort of animal input. Doesn’t necessarily have to be livestock but lots of little animals live in the soil and should start to be considered. Yeah the easiest way to get quick results is add larger animals, grazers are keystone species to healthy ecosystems for a reason, but they don’t need to be a consistently active member.

Lots of regenerative geared folks will say a big key is flexibility, do what works for you, when, and the goal is to try and help the soil regenerate. The name kind of gives it away.

Most modern farming doesn’t regenerate anything, the main goal is to try and break even. Put in as much as you took out so you can hopefully get the same results. And you need to put it in, there’s no chance the soil can supply its own needs. There’s no symbiosis in a monocrop field.

Regenerative arable is still very much in its infancy. That’s a high input industry that is stuck in its own cycle. Hard to break out of for a number of reasons. Different options are around but each farm would have to research and trial and error their way to a method that works for them. And yea, it’s almost guaranteed to lower the yield of one crop. The mentality has to switch more to savings of inputs, ROI, and yield per acre of everything, not just single crops.

But that’s a hard leap of faith when all the payments for land and equipment and inputs, etc. are based on the highest yields achievable through pushing with those inputs. I think that’s why it’s easier for smaller, and especially easier for newer, farmers to give it a go. They aren’t as tethered to the eternal hamster wheel of payments. Yet.

If any arable farm can have even a small section of land, 20, 40, even 60 acres that they can dedicate to an experiment field... I think that would be the neatest thing ever. I know lots of farmers that play around with variety trials and spray trials... I don’t know of any that play around with a small field to see if they can cut down on inputs by implementing more regen geared practices. Since regen is such a long term game I think it would be better to focus on one specific place and see if that soil can be built up and weaned off inputs instead of moving the experiment around to different land. That wouldn’t really give you any results. But 3, 5, 10 years on 20 acres.... that could have some potentially interesting stuff come out of it and hopefully not be too time consuming or fiscally draining because it’s a small piece.

But... it’s easy for me to dream about how other people could play with their land 😂😂

[furrowtickler]

I think any healthy soil farming (which should be a goal on some level) is going to need some sort of animal input. Doesn’t necessarily have to be livestock but lots of little animals live in the soil and should start to be considered. Yeah the easiest way to get quick results is add larger animals, grazers are keystone species to healthy ecosystems for a reason, but they don’t need to be a consistently active member.

Lots of regenerative geared folks will say a big key is flexibility, do what works for you, when, and the goal is to try and help the soil regenerate. The name kind of gives it away.

Most modern farming doesn’t regenerate anything, the main goal is to try and break even. Put in as much as you took out so you can hopefully get the same results. And you need to put it in, there’s no chance the soil can supply its own needs. There’s no symbiosis in a monocrop field.

Regenerative arable is still very much in its infancy. That’s a high input industry that is stuck in its own cycle. Hard to break out of for a number of reasons. Different options are around but each farm would have to research and trial and error their way to a method that works for them. And yea, it’s almost guaranteed to lower the yield of one crop. The mentality has to switch more to savings of inputs, ROI, and yield per acre of everything, not just single crops.

But that’s a hard leap of faith when all the payments for land and equipment and inputs, etc. are based on the highest yields achievable through pushing with those inputs. I think that’s why it’s easier for smaller, and especially easier for newer, farmers to give it a go. They aren’t as tethered to the eternal hamster wheel of payments. Yet.

If any arable farm can have even a small section of land, 20, 40, even 60 acres that they can dedicate to an experiment field... I think that would be the neatest thing ever. I know lots of farmers that play around with variety trials and spray trials... I don’t know of any that play around with a small field to see if they can cut down on inputs by implementing more regen geared practices. Since regen is such a long term game I think it would be better to focus on one specific place and see if that soil can be built up and weaned off inputs instead of moving the experiment around to different land. That wouldn’t really give you any results. But 3, 5, 10 years on 20 acres.... that could have some potentially interesting stuff come out of it and hopefully not be too time consuming or fiscally draining because it’s a small piece.

But... it’s easy for me to dream about how other people could play with their land 😂😂

Many grain farms , including ours , continuously are trying small acre projects to try and improve rotations and profitability. Yes the very large farms most likely don’t waste time with small acre plots .