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    #16
    Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
    The BS from the Mega to Small is BS. It doesn't matter if you have one super B or 20 come on that is BS.

    The biggest problem Canada was no checks and balance after the CWB was done.

    We need the info now so you can backtrack it to Rural sask for a price.
    No Mega to BTO is not BS. I have sat at merchant's trying to talk and they looked right past me at BTO and Hutts that just walked in ignoring me and waving at them even getting up to go talk. Other way around they don't even glance.

    Also have watched many quality assessments been up graded by # of tonnes they will get on next sale of different commodity.

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      #17
      Regardless of NFU policy the CWB is not coming back anytime soon.

      Its just good to see that since the CWB was taken away that farmers have no marketing or transportation issues to complain about! LOL

      What's interesting though is the Conservatives and the majority of farmers still support compulsory marketing boards for poultry and dairy products.

      Considering marketing freedom was the rally cry of the anti CWB folks there seems to be no similar concern about dairy and poultry.

      If the border was open and supply management marketing boards disappeared, imports would shut down a lot of Canadian farms and the dairy industry would be thrown into chaos.

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        #18
        I laugh at the comment they left you in the office and ran to the hutts.

        Yes we do a average of all the crop some years it’s a one across the board some years a two and some feed or three.

        This is total BS large vs small it’s a NFU dream of life in the Socialist world.

        How come med make more money?

        Big is just turning money and making investors happy.

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          #19
          Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
          No Mega to BTO is not BS. I have sat at merchant's trying to talk and they looked right past me at BTO and Hutts that just walked in ignoring me and waving at them even getting up to go talk. Other way around they don't even glance.

          Also have watched many quality assessments been up graded by # of tonnes they will get on next sale of different commodity.
          That's kinda sad.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Robertbarlage View Post
            7.50 wheat today . under CWB would be 6.00 .
            Think it was 60% of estimated final...$4.50

            But the volume thing is alive and well, everyone gets a different price on inputs. Or rebates, volume is KING.

            MNP says 2500 acres most profitable. Any bigger and machinery multiples hurt till 10,000 acres.
            Last edited by fjlip; Nov 21, 2020, 12:02.

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              #21
              I cried when I read that.

              Come on Yes they will look for the volume and yes the black coats walk in and some go gaga but most don't care.

              We have three tons unloading in front of Super Bs. It's farming in 2020.

              Quit picking small vs large vs mega.

              We all farm.

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                #22
                Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                I cried when I read that.

                Come on Yes they will look for the volume and yes the black coats walk in and some go gaga but most don't care.

                We have three tons unloading in front of Super Bs. It's farming in 2020.

                Quit picking small vs large vs mega.

                We all farm.
                At Wadena, maybe 5 out of 100 are tandems. 50% super B, rest all kinds of trailers. I know my days are numbered, I probably cost the elevators more per bushel to deal with. They can calculate.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Regardless of NFU policy the CWB is not coming back anytime soon.

                  Its just good to see that since the CWB was taken away that farmers have no marketing or transportation issues to complain about! LOL

                  What's interesting though is the Conservatives and the majority of farmers still support compulsory marketing boards for poultry and dairy products.

                  Considering marketing freedom was the rally cry of the anti CWB folks there seems to be no similar concern about dairy and poultry.

                  If the border was open and supply management marketing boards disappeared, imports would shut down a lot of Canadian farms and the dairy industry would be thrown into chaos.
                  Dairy and poultry production and quality can be nearly 100 % controllable..... grains , oilseeds and pulses it’s impossible. So that’s a mute point for the most part, always has been .

                  Simple question was , does the NFU intend to push for pulses and canola under this policy ?

                  Was not looking for comparisons to poultry and dairy .... totally different worlds in Ag .

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post


                    Will that eventually include pulse crops as well ?

                    Be interesting to see what percentage of western Canadian FARMERS agree to this .....
                    Close to 0% of real farmers.
                    Unfortunately the NFU doesn’t ask farmers for their opinion. They seem to survey carbon tax activists, union leaders, climate alarmists, Ralph Goodale, former NDP members who want to defund the police, etc.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Robertbarlage View Post
                      7.50 wheat today . under CWB would be 6.00 .
                      More like $1.50 if you can dump and maybe $1.00 interim payment and $1.00 final payment 18 months later. Good Job rip-off artists. Watch land prices tank.
                      Last edited by sumdumguy; Nov 21, 2020, 13:24.

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                        #26
                        I cant even believe we're still talking about this.
                        A good read if you're bored is "The great grain robbery by Don Barons I think. A history of the communist mindset instilled at an early age in our industry. Extreme us and them polarization that became generational. Sounds familiar. A series of tragedies over 80+ years.
                        Railroads count time in decades so we still have a ways to go there. Both in infrastructure and policy. Their hands are still partially tied by the above legacy. Some ridiculous legislation and beliefs still exist.
                        Regarding criticism of freedom day.
                        Yes, there was a lot things left undone or done poorly.
                        It had been discussed for a long time. Industry saw it coming for a while. But the way our politics work I believe it became a hard push on the biggest issue.
                        It was a real struggle to kill a sacred cow. Delay would have meant failure.
                        Thankfully at least that got done when it did finally.
                        How much voice does our industry have in policy now???? 0. Had we failed then we would still have the board. Hard to imagine really.
                        The NFU likely a fringe group like the Communist Party of Canada. I dont even know.
                        Anyone with an open mind and a history in private enterprise of Any kind could Never in Any way see Any value whatsoever in Anything the board Ever did.

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                          #27
                          We talk how trudy's field trips have cost farmers millions in lost potential. But it pales many many times in comparison to the decades long reign of the CWB.

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                            #28
                            One good thing they did was to send us searching for alternate crops like Glenlea Wheat, Lentils, Canaryseed, in fact anything that was not Board.

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                              #29
                              Indeed, the fact we have the canola industry we have is a direct result of not being on the board. And a clear testimony to the lost potential.

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                                #30
                                This coming from the NFU doesn't surprise me. They are living in the past and are so out of touch with the reality in the country its unbelievable. We just went through a provincial election here in Sask and it was so glaring that the left has totally divested themselves of any rural support and meaningful rural policy development. The number of votes they got showed it. Even look at the US election results on a county level basis and it is obvious that the rural voters don't buy what the left is selling.

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