So Nutrien is going to pay you for Carbon Credits.

[SASKFARMER]

Ham I agree with you after reading the release its a basket of make-believe and some cash to farmers. Its a joke.

Also Yes one Group Crap insurance maybe pays it out. No games nail the emitters and pay the guys that store.

Enough of the games.

[bucket]

Ham I agree with you after reading the release its a basket of make-believe and some cash to farmers. Its a joke.

Also Yes one Group Crap insurance maybe pays it out. No games nail the emitters and pay the guys that store.

Enough of the games.

Unless you are privately insured on your crops..small percentage of farms..in order to have accurate records on seeding intensity....every company that pops up will want your data from crop insurance....I am not comfortable with everyone accessing my crop insurance. ...it reports fertilizer use , yields etc....that shouldn't be free data.

Just let crop insurance handle it...they have the data collection and historical records system in house already...

[Oliver88]

Wouldnt it be nice if they actually paid farmers for doing what we have done for 37 years or more. I am sick of the BS where it's always everyone else and we get the scraps.

My concern with these silly programs is will there be fines or taxes for land improvements.....read the fine print. Signing any of these contracts similar to the Viterra program could be asking for trouble.

[bucket]

My concern with these silly programs is will there be fines or taxes for land improvements.....read the fine print. Signing any of these contracts similar to the Viterra program could be asking for trouble.

But maybe some of the land improvements are not quite what they seem...draining land on to the neighbours might seem like a great improvement for the farmer doing it....but it really just compounds the problem...without having a 30000 foot level look at what could be a good plan...

Off topic but government has the opportunity to do so much more as far as land improvements or conversely looking at the opportunity for just leaving it as is...

Thats why the US has land conservation programs....you get paid to leave as is...

Maybe Canada has the option to make a workable program based on other countries experience...

sorry....back to the regularly schedule program....I am talking in bizarro world..parallel universe...

[Rareearth]

They pay one dollar, we will pay another two, 😬

[SASKFARMER]

Oh at the 20 its a win-win for them and the farmers get a BS 30 dollars extra from using fertilizer. You cant make shit up like this.

[SASKFARMER]

This whole idea should have been pushed big time by all the farm groups. Just listened at noon to the canola head that is retiring. Yea he should. Total yea yea yea and nothing said.

But I for one don't trust business to pay us the fair amount. Little games will be played and farmers will be responsible for the screw-ups.

A gov agency federal should take what's collected and send credits to those who do something for the environment.

Not solar panels and wind turbines that mine the earth for raw materials more than the actual savings in power.

[Oliver88]

But maybe some of the land improvements are not quite what they seem...draining land on to the neighbours might seem like a great improvement for the farmer doing it....but it really just compounds the problem...without having a 30000 foot level look at what could be a good plan...

Off topic but government has the opportunity to do so much more as far as land improvements or conversely looking at the opportunity for just leaving it as is...

Thats why the US has land conservation programs....you get paid to leave as is......

I was referring more to clearing bush, breaking new productive land, etc.

[bucket]

I was referring more to clearing bush, breaking new productive land, etc.

Yes good point. ...but if you were compensated with a conservation program....would you still do it?

I think that is what the conservation programs are for in the USA.

[farmaholic]

People get upset when GrainCos ask them to sign sustainability agreements that ask you not to do certain things on your land.

People get upset when Ducks Unlimited get their claws into land.

ALUS rubs some people the wrong way.

How much control do you want to give up in exchange for how many dollars per acre annually.

"Land improvements" for easier farming can be an oxymoron in relation to wildlife, environment, biodiversity.

I have absolutely no room to judge anyone who cleared bush or landscaped to move water, as I did both. And bought land that had it done already.

In my experience, "land improvements", has polar opposite affects on making land farming friendly and the well being of wild life and biodiversity. I saw it myself. The Ghetto isn't that marginal that leaving things the way they were never paid dividends farming those claimed acres. If there is a balance...... there isn't one in the Slum of the Ghetto now.

Sometimes I think annual cropping creates more biomass than short grass prairie did. Then when the accumulation of dead prairie grass fuel got heavy natural prairie fires sent it all up in smoke. I bet some prairie grain fields haven't been burnt black in decades.