Eat Just

[jamesb]

Reading this morning that Eat Just has approval in Singapore to sell their lab grown "meat'. As farmers we all have a opinion and perspective about things like these but its going to be interesting where things go. I admit to being dismayed that a lot in the ag community were/ are negative towards "plant based " meat, even though many of us grow the prime ingredient in the product. It would be better that they don't call it meat or beyond beef? Kinda like wave a red flag in front of a mad bull. Realistically real meat isn't going any where. IMO there is no way to imitate a good t bone steak or a nice medium rare rack of lamb. Chicken nuggets are another thing.

[sumdumguy]

Does lab grown mean they use living cells to grow meat? So t-bone cells, grow t-bones? I know nothing about any of this just know that the vegetable-base meat doesn’t turn my crank, at all.

[GDR]

I admit to being dismayed that a lot in the ag community were/ are negative towards "plant based " meat, even though many of us grow the prime ingredient in the product. [/QUOTE]

You need to look at the bigger picture, a shift to "plant based" meat will not help grain prices, in fact it will depress markets. How many millions of acres are in forage production? You want a shift on them to grain acres? Less feed grain demand equals more acres of pulses and milling grains which translates to lower prices. Then what about downgraded pulses and grains, feed market is now limited so lower bids.

As for your comment on the Singapore company it is not plant based, it is lab grown. Completely different product and to livestock producers likely more of a potential problem as it is actually meat tissue, grown artificially, but still meat where a veggie burger is still a veggie burger.

The "ick" factor and the high cost of lab production are the only things saving the meat industry in the near term. Who knows long term.

[woodland]

I’m of the same opinion GDR. For our farm it seems we can only grow forage, feed grain, and canola with the variable short season out here. Unless all feed grain gets turned into ethanol and there’s still the distillers grain after the process what happens to it?

Current rail grade price is $2.30/lb ............. not that it’s great or desirable but I’m curious what the lab grown “protein” will have for a break even price down the road?

Now back check some real life cows..........

[shtferbrains]

Totaly puts it all under multinational control.
Not that the meat packing industry is any freind of mine.
Right now one guy with a animal and one guy with a knife and your good.

[TASFarms]

Plant based meat is processed food = not healthy

[jamesb]

I admit to being dismayed that a lot in the ag community were/ are negative towards "plant based " meat, even though many of us grow the prime ingredient in the product.

You need to look at the bigger picture, a shift to "plant based" meat will not help grain prices, in fact it will depress markets. How many millions of acres are in forage production? You want a shift on them to grain acres? Less feed grain demand equals more acres of pulses and milling grains which translates to lower prices. Then what about downgraded pulses and grains, feed market is now limited so lower bids.

As for your comment on the Singapore company it is not plant based, it is lab grown. Completely different product and to livestock producers likely more of a potential problem as it is actually meat tissue, grown artificially, but still meat where a veggie burger is still a veggie burger.

The "ick" factor and the high cost of lab production are the only things saving the meat industry in the near term. Who knows long term.[/QUOTE]

Hold on there buddy, You are putting words in my mouth.
You and I don't decide what products come on the market.
I grow peas and lentils. I am tired of having few choices to sell to , if India and China put duties on it hurts us. We need more markets. I am seeing that , P and H in Saskatoon, the new plant in Portage, new buyers for fractionated peas.
You say I want to shift acres? I didn't say that at all. I am a simple farmer who grows and sell crops hopefully for a profit or I will grow something that does.
I said the product the product was lab grown , I didn't say it was plant based. Will I buy it? It not going replace the side of beef in my freezer
As I said before, I think that the Beyond Beef company name itself is more irritating, as it is a swipe against beef. Remember I am not pushing this but its what we are seeing on the shelves. Sticking our head in the sand wont make the changes in the world go away. Its only been a short time that we haven't had cattle on our farm and the next generation coming on maybe bringing them back instead of renting out the pastures so we have skin in this game too.

[rumrocks]

Woodland, where do you find the rail grade price.

[GDR]

You need to look at the bigger picture, a shift to "plant based" meat will not help grain prices, in fact it will depress markets. How many millions of acres are in forage production? You want a shift on them to grain acres? Less feed grain demand equals more acres of pulses and milling grains which translates to lower prices. Then what about downgraded pulses and grains, feed market is now limited so lower bids.

As for your comment on the Singapore company it is not plant based, it is lab grown. Completely different product and to livestock producers likely more of a potential problem as it is actually meat tissue, grown artificially, but still meat where a veggie burger is still a veggie burger.

The "ick" factor and the high cost of lab production are the only things saving the meat industry in the near term. Who knows long term.

Hold on there buddy, You are putting words in my mouth.
You and I don't decide what products come on the market.
I grow peas and lentils. I am tired of having few choices to sell to , if India and China put duties on it hurts us. We need more markets. I am seeing that , P and H in Saskatoon, the new plant in Portage, new buyers for fractionated peas.
You say I want to shift acres? I didn't say that at all. I am a simple farmer who grows and sell crops hopefully for a profit or I will grow something that does.
I said the product the product was lab grown , I didn't say it was plant based. Will I buy it? It not going replace the side of beef in my freezer
As I said before, I think that the Beyond Beef company name itself is more irritating, as it is a swipe against beef. Remember I am not pushing this but its what we are seeing on the shelves. Sticking our head in the sand wont make the changes in the world go away. Its only been a short time that we haven't had cattle on our farm and the next generation coming on maybe bringing them back instead of renting out the pastures so we have skin in this game too.[/QUOTE]

I didnt mean you specifically are gonna shift acres, I mean ag in general. Lots and lots of feed grains grown intentionally, if there isn't a great market for feed barley and feed wheat those acres will get seeded to other crops... maybe peas and lentils. What I mean is we cant all chase the same market because it's already over supplied.

[littledoggie]

Here's a little something for all the narcissists out there. Eat yourself.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/scientists-have-created-an-edible-steak-made-from-human-cells-heres-why/ar-BB1baG68 https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/scientists-have-created-an-edible-steak-made-from-human-cells-heres-why/ar-BB1baG68

[TSIPP]

I bought a cattle ranch so l could eat home raised beef, I’m not even gonna try that crap.

[shtferbrains]

Why would anybody?

[woodland]

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Woodland, where do you find the rail grade price.

Here’s where we find it. We sell our yearlings through them and have occasionally sold loads of cull cows directly to the plants.

[Blaithin]

You need to look at the bigger picture, a shift to "plant based" meat will not help grain prices, in fact it will depress markets. How many millions of acres are in forage production? You want a shift on them to grain acres? Less feed grain demand equals more acres of pulses and milling grains which translates to lower prices. Then what about downgraded pulses and grains, feed market is now limited so lower bids.

As for your comment on the Singapore company it is not plant based, it is lab grown. Completely different product and to livestock producers likely more of a potential problem as it is actually meat tissue, grown artificially, but still meat where a veggie burger is still a veggie burger.

The "ick" factor and the high cost of lab production are the only things saving the meat industry in the near term. Who knows long term.

Slightly off topic but didn’t somebody on another thread recently say there’s not much forage/pasture land left that can be broken up? Jazz maybe?

Amazing what could show up to be breakable if there were new markets with premiums to make it enticing for a couple of years.

Farmers; Not always the ones known to practice foresight.

[farmaholic]

Why would anybody?

Because it validates stupid people's beliefs that they can save the planet one cow burp and fart at a time.....