People 's grocery bill expected to go up...

[fjlip]

1982..8 bucks..

Would need $30 today to equal buying power

[rumrocks]

Nothing makes that more clear than sending 1 fat steer to the market and his pen buddy to the local abattoir for filling freezer orders.

For example, the last ones we sold for freezer orders returned a gross of $2550/hd. Subtract the $500+/- processing fee leaves $2050/hd.

On the live market, those Holstein steers would have returned about $1450 -$1500/hd.

Burnt, just wondering how much Holsteins are discounted at the packers because of their difference in yield compared to an Angus.

Which breed do you prefer for taste when it comes to barbecuing, assuming your Name would have no bearing on the question.

[Oliver88]

jazz, the media is portraying this increase as "farmers getting more" or "there were production problems" as reasons the price for groceries is going up.

The citizenry,,, the consumer,,, the people,,, need to know, prices are going up due to the Carbon Tax on every step of production, from before the seed goes into the ground, till it reaches the belt at the grocery clerk.(and even your trip home from the store)

Unlike GST, where the tax is rebated at each step of the process, the Carbon Tax is not, there by accumulating at each step of the way to the end user. The Carbon Tax is passed along from one step to the next, without anyone knowing exactly how much tax is built into the price.

As Climate Barbie, Chucky, and all climate alarmists say....poor people starving and being too poor to heat their home is a sign the carbon tax is working. This is all collateral damage in the great fight against efficient and reliable fossil fuel energy.

[biglentil]

[burnt]

Burnt, just wondering how much Holsteins are discounted at the packers because of their difference in yield compared to an Angus.

Which breed do you prefer for taste when it comes to barbecuing, assuming your Name would have no bearing on the question.

This is last week's report from OLEX, likely one of the biggest fed Holstein steer markets around. It gives a pretty good picture of the discount at the live level.

https://www.ontariobeef.com/markets/auction-markets/olex-thurs.aspx https://www.ontariobeef.com/markets/auction-markets/olex-thurs.aspx

I don't think I have ever shipped Holstein's direct to packer, but do recall that there is a bit of a price trim for the black and whites - maybe a dime on the rail? And then there can be carcass weight penalties.

I have sat and watched that OLEX sale at times and often wonder how much corn some of those big buggers ate to reach 1850 lbs. Some of those great big guys can be about 1800 - 1900 hundred when they finish and man are they ever nice and round! They bring a higher price than a nice 1600 lbs steer, but still they seem uneconomical to me when you consider the feed conversion at that size. I've wondered how it works for anyone.

If anyone ever travels to Ontario and takes a look around, I would highly recommend stopping at the OLEX livestock sale and Farmer's market on a Thursday - the place is buzzing.

The Farmer's market, housed in 3 large buildings with hundreds of vendors, has everything - especially a great selection and variety of foods - meat vendors with counters full of the most beautiful selection of fresh meats of every description, fruit sellers, food vendors. Too many hawkers for me, but all interesting.

Oh man - the freshly deep-fried apple fritters, the big soft pretzels, Oktoberfest sausages, pizzas, endless variety.

I've often said that it's the best place around where i can go and spend 20 bucks and gain 10 pounds...

But we haven't been there this year since - - - the WuFlu. Some things like that just burn...

As for the best meat - I don't really know. I think it depends on starting with the best animal and aging process. We have had a lot of Black Angus over the years and they can be unbeatable for flavour and texture. But then I remember butchering a young, fat Simmental one time - yes, the two can happen together!!!- and thought it was the best meat we ever had.

But these last two barley-fed Holsteins seem to have set the bar just that much higher. And that's feedback coming from our customers, not just our own experience.

And yes, I have had a bit too much smoke coming from the BBQ at times, especially with Angus on the grill...but that's not where the handle came from. I think it came from hitting the wall one too many times a few years back...

[bucket]

Step One....grocers have meeting and decide its time to line their pockets more...
Step Two ...While in the meeting decide farmers are an easy target to blame for above.
Step 3...... Pay academia to write nonsense about farmer wheat prices going up
Step 4.....Get media on board to write what academia says...
Step 5 ...Public starts to get mad at farmers for higher prices
Step 6... Charge more with collusionary grocery markets....
Step 6a....Hide profits in offshore accounts
Step 7...Eventually admit collusion and price fixing so politicians dont investigate where the billions in price fixing are...

Step 8..hand out a token gift card with prices at the fixed higher price...

Step 9..repeat at earliest convenience


And all throughout the steps farmer's representatives are insanely quiet....


Called Saskwheat about this report of higher food prices ....why are you not on this????...

Response...""" I will take it to the board to see if there should be a counter response to that report..."""

Translation.....phuck off and don't bother us.

[rumrocks]

This is last week's report from OLEX, likely one of the biggest fed Holstein steer markets around. It gives a pretty good picture of the discount at the live level.

https://www.ontariobeef.com/markets/auction-markets/olex-thurs.aspx https://www.ontariobeef.com/markets/auction-markets/olex-thurs.aspx

I don't think I have ever shipped Holstein's direct to packer, but do recall that there is a bit of a price trim for the black and whites - maybe a dime on the rail? And then there can be carcass weight penalties.

I have sat and watched that OLEX sale at times and often wonder how much corn some of those big buggers ate to reach 1850 lbs. Some of those great big guys can be about 1800 - 1900 hundred when they finish and man are they ever nice and round! They bring a higher price than a nice 1600 lbs steer, but still they seem uneconomical to me when you consider the feed conversion at that size. I've wondered how it works for anyone.

If anyone ever travels to Ontario and takes a look around, I would highly recommend stopping at the OLEX livestock sale and Farmer's market on a Thursday - the place is buzzing.

The Farmer's market, housed in 3 large buildings with hundreds of vendors, has everything - especially a great selection and variety of foods - meat vendors with counters full of the most beautiful selection of fresh meats of every description, fruit sellers, food vendors. Too many hawkers for me, but all interesting.

Oh man - the freshly deep-fried apple fritters, the big soft pretzels, Oktoberfest sausages, pizzas, endless variety.

I've often said that it's the best place around where i can go and spend 20 bucks and gain 10 pounds...

But we haven't been there this year since - - - the WuFlu. Some things like that just burn...

As for the best meat - I don't really know. I think it depends on starting with the best animal and aging process. We have had a lot of Black Angus over the years and they can be unbeatable for flavour and texture. But then I remember butchering a young, fat Simmental one time - yes, the two can happen together!!!- and thought it was the best meat we ever had.

But these last two barley-fed Holsteins seem to have set the bar just that much higher. And that's feedback coming from our customers, not just our own experience.

And yes, I have had a bit too much smoke coming from the BBQ at times, especially with Angus on the grill...but that's not where the handle came from. I think it came from hitting the wall one too many times a few years back...

Thanks, I agree finishing cattle is not for the faint of heart. I'd like to know exactly how much a packer nets on a finished steer. They made a lot of money during BSE.

I don't have a problem with guys hitting the wall once in a while, it shows you're trying harder than most and may only have a problem with depth perception.

[Oliver88]

The hidden cost of the carbon tax
All those costs being passed down to the average customer .
It’s not just fuel .....

$30/tonne now

$170/tonne tax in 2030.