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    #25
    For those who see the jab as a panacea, there's this Ottawa Citizen article to consider:

    'Clinical trials so far have not been designed to determine if an immunized person can still spread the coronavirus to someone else. COVID-19 vaccine makers focused trials on determining whether the drug stopped people from getting ill.

    It will also be several more months before it becomes clear how long the vaccination will protect someone from coronavirus infection.

    “Until then, it is better to avoid the pub, and other in-person gatherings with many people,” said Dr. Anita Shet, infectious disease specialist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

    Since there is no evidence that the immunization prevents transmission of the virus – and no vaccine is 100% effective – scientists call for continued vigilance, including mask-wearing, hand-washing and social distancing. “As with all vaccines, it may work really great in certain patient subsets, but not as well in others … Does that mean you are free to hop on a plane or have 30 people over at your house? Probably not,” said Dr. Michelle Barron, senior medical director for infection prevention at Colorado’s UC Health.'

    So regardless of any claims, there is no substitute for taking personal responsibility. There's just way too much that remains unknown about the WuFlu.

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      #26
      Originally posted by burnt View Post
      Is this a conspiracy theory?

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      This data is out of date

      https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/cv.action?pid=1310076801 https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/cv.action?pid=1310076801

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        #27
        I will get the vaccine as soon as I can. My wife has virtually zero immunity from cancer and it's ongoing treatment so getting vaccinated is as much about protecting her as myself. Same reasons for wearing a mask as it's protecting others from me.

        I've had the flu vaccine for years for the same reason despite having a religious, anti vaxxer lunatic brother in law ( he even claims there's glyphosate in the vaccine) that says the flu vaccine has made me part of Satan's army.

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          #28
          DML did you price out what it would cost to have my Yukon loaded up and hauled to Florida.

          Your not very bright are you if you cant see this is all about control. If Canadians could cross the border they could buy the vaccine get there cheaper groceries and enjoy life again. But with skippy in charge its all about control.

          Like Case said since I got sick and what I had I will not be able to go south with a plane till March at the earliest. I'll go then but I might need a yellow star on my jacket from Skippy.

          Liberals ****ed up the whole thing from the beginning. The boarders should have been closed to all flights from China day one when the shit hit the fan. Also when it hit Italy etc the same. THen a real 14-day quarantine.

          Close the border to people walking over from the USA.

          But no a liberal like you will support a total **** up till the day he is gone and then cry that he is gone.

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            #29
            I think I’ll just wait and stand at the back of the line. I have never taken a flu shot ever and haven’t had the flu since university. When 150 workers can pile into one building every day (and they were there yesterday), and they have all survived for 9 months (after at least 19 positive cases), there’s more than a chance I will survive the remote chance I bump into the Big C. Not worried at all.

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              #30
              Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
              Just Googled the ivomectin , looked like
              A 50% reduction in mortality.
              Not insignificant, but not a cure.
              If the facts are correct
              This doctor would disagree with your findings.

              What is science, if not repeated trials conducted under consistent controls and observations?

              This is starting to look like the rush to vaccines is nothing but another government program shoveling of taxpayer funds into the pockets of their wealthy owners.

              But sure, get in line for a jab that may or may not work, that may or may not cause severe allergic reactions, that most certainly did not follow the ages-old testing and approval protocol - when there is a super-cheap, simple and safe treatment right at our fingertips.

              Gotta keep those pharma thieves happy!

              EDIT: Actually, it's more likely a mutual agreement between big pharma and the wannabe dictators like our Prime Moron,. Big Pharma gets to profit exorbitantly from a needless and potentially harmful vax program while the wannabe dictator gets to grasp control over the population.

              I suspect that this is the real reason behind maintaining an unrealistic level of fear porn and the false numbers "cases...cases...cases... 000's of high-risk contacts..."being shoveled out daily by a corrupt and complicit media.
              Last edited by burnt; Dec 13, 2020, 09:25.

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                #31
                Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                I want to go to my southern home so yes I’ll get both shots. Would get one and pay for it in Minot if Trudeau would open the boarder.
                You can cross at Coutts it seems the Premiers not Trudeau control the boarders! Kenney has Coutts and Calgary airport open with restrictions.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                  DML did you price out what it would cost to have my Yukon loaded up and hauled to Florida.

                  Your not very bright are you if you cant see this is all about control. If Canadians could cross the border they could buy the vaccine get there cheaper groceries and enjoy life again. But with skippy in charge its all about control.

                  Like Case said since I got sick and what I had I will not be able to go south with a plane till March at the earliest. I'll go then but I might need a yellow star on my jacket from Skippy.

                  Liberals ****ed up the whole thing from the beginning. The boarders should have been closed to all flights from China day one when the shit hit the fan. Also when it hit Italy etc the same. THen a real 14-day quarantine.

                  Close the border to people walking over from the USA.

                  But no a liberal like you will support a total **** up till the day he is gone and then cry that he is gone.
                  Who said anything about hauling your Yukon all the way to Florida? Not necessary! Only needs to be transported to the nearest airport south of the border where there is US border services. And the vehicle does not have to be loaded up, it can be driven across as long as it is being done by a commercial transport company employee with US clearance. From Montreal it is a 10 minute flight in a 9 passengar plane and your car is waiting for you just across the border at for example. Read the article .

                  Just admit it, Trudeau is not stopping Canadians from going to the US like you claimed in your first post. They can fly south anytime. There are even ways to get your vehicle across the border if you want to drive. Trudeau did not cause your illness so dont try to blame him for not being able to go south until march either - unless Trudeau is also your chosen insurance agent who has the 90 day rule following your hospitalization. Your continual blaming Trudeau for every little thing - even when it is entirely your decision -is getting tiresome. In school did you dog always eat your homework too?
                  Last edited by dmlfarmer; Dec 13, 2020, 09:42.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                    I want to go to my southern home so yes I’ll get both shots. Would get one and pay for it in Minot if Trudeau would open the boarder.
                    And please share with the forum where a Canadian can go in Minot and purchase a Covid 19 vaccination now or even by march! Talk about BS!

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                      Who said anything about hauling your Yukon all the way to Florida? Not necessary! Only needs to be transported to the nearest airport south of the border where there is US border services. And the vehicle does not have to be loaded up, it can be driven across as long as it is being done by a commercial transport company employee with US clearance. From Montreal it is a 10 minute flight in a 9 passengar plane and your car is waiting for you just across the border at for example. Read the article .

                      Just admit it, Trudeau is not stopping Canadians from going to the US like you claimed in your first post. They can fly south anytime. There are even ways to get your vehicle across the border if you want to drive. Trudeau did not cause your illness so dont try to blame him for not being able to go south until march either - unless Trudeau is also your chosen insurance agent who has the 90 day rule following your hospitalization. Your continual blaming Trudeau for every little thing - even when it is entirely your decision -is getting tiresome. In school did you dog always eat your homework too?

                      You can load your grow-op in the RV. It could be your portable farm. 😂

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by jazz View Post
                        If you ever get too complacent about vaccines go visit the travel health office to get an eye opening.

                        They will sit there and tell you about dozens of diseases that have never even existed in Canada and that you need protection. When we asked which ones were the most critical they just said get them all, better safe than sorry in their words. We proceeded to get $2000 worth of unnecessary shots. Dengue? I see more mosquitos on my farm than in any 3rd world country.

                        Will never do that again. But this is the ambiguous health advise that our experts dish out.

                        Lets see if Trudeau gets a shot.
                        There is no vaccine for dengue in Canada ?
                        Wish there was
                        That one scares the shit outta me
                        Second time is a killer
                        The dengue virus is not present in mosquitos in Canada. Although advanced research is underway, there is currently no approved vaccine or medication that protects against dengue fever.
                        Last edited by Guest; Dec 13, 2020, 10:32.

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                          You can cross at Coutts it seems the Premiers not Trudeau control the boarders! Kenney has Coutts and Calgary airport open with restrictions.
                          The Canadian Border Security Agency (Federal) controls the border, its closed by land until at least Jan 21st.

                          If the USA northern states gets their vaccinations done in short time it would be wise to let Canadians cross by land for “essential” vaccinations.

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