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    The Liberals Cant See the Changes farmers have done in farming!

    I think boys we lost the war and now all the good we have done to protect the environment in rural Canada is been taken away and discarded as usual practice and we will get zero credit for it.

    BOBOO is following the liberal playbook and pushing the climate change carbon tax save the world Jesus loves me climate Bullshit.

    Were dealing with liberals and its always the same tax tax tax and the problem will go away. Being nice for the last five years by our producer groups was an epic fail with this lot. Pig headed is pig headed. THe only thing they understand is hitting back and public opinion.

    They won it's that simple and why you ask.

    Farmers in the west and actually all of Canada are now like the city cousins broke with death up to their assholes. The feds know this and will put out carrots here is 1/3 of the cost to put this on your air drill, company jacks price double and the farmer gets 1/3 back thinks he is winning.

    My point is they know us better than we know our selves. Were like a junkie on heroin we need our next fix the gov has it in little checks here and there and we smile and take another shot in the arm. AH got our fix.

    To me, farmers should have pushed the feds and media since day one that we are better than A&W we are the true stewards of the land. We adapted direct seeding not a ****ing gov program but farmers. If it works it gains traction and it worked. On our farm for some 37 years and the feds don't even consider all the good I did. What did our city cousins and factories do. Nothing pollute and continue. We took action with Variable rate, sectional control and mapping on sprayers seeders combines etc. We did change and not with Gov money but with good old western ingenuity.

    But again all the good we did this group of misfits in Ottawa don't understand or are just that Blind with a liberal Carbon tax that they are going to destroy everything we did just to make them feel good with a tax.

    The Whole Carbon play by Ottawa is flawed. But with a group like Skippy and his bum buddy butts who failed in Ontario is pushing this insanity. Its that insanity. The second-largest land mass country in the world is the problem with a population of under 36 million. We have more trees and land not used for anything than any place on earth yet were the problem.

    Farmers will fall in line because of Debt. The young farmers think it's all right and will fall in line. The old will be replaced because we're sick of all the rules and farming will go on with less money in farmers pockets and the whole cycle continues.

    #2
    The liberanos are stuffing their bank accounts. at the tax payers expense. They really need to be in jail. Not sure why sask just cant say no to the carbon tax. It’s time to cut ties with Ottawa

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      #3
      I wish we could audit the feds and see who is really behind the climate shit show and who really is filling their pockets to the brim. Kill oil and the new gold is electric and wind etc. Follow the money.

      unfortunately farmers got ****ed on this whole issue and we are going to have to pay for stuff we have already done on behalf of saving the environment. I might push trees but I planted more than Trudeau and I paid for mine out of my own pocket.

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        #4
        Here is an couple of articles for you Saskfarmer:national post.com/opinion/john-ivison-rising-carbon-tax-is-part-of-death-by-a-thousand-cuts-for-canadian-farmers. nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-edmonton-gets-another-slap-in-the-face-from-ottawa.

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          #5
          Everyone in Canada was warned that the carbon tax wouldn't end at 50 bucks....


          They elected Trudeau anyway...the lying phucktard....

          People in Canada are more worried about the plight of India's farmers than they are about Canadian farmers that are helping the economy....better to fund Air Canada than agriculture....

          400 million in wage subsidies to Air canada ...

          In 2010 I dont think the federal government funded farmers that much for " too wet " payments...

          It is a phucking joke...

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            #6
            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
            Here is an couple of articles for you Saskfarmer:national post.com/opinion/john-ivison-rising-carbon-tax-is-part-of-death-by-a-thousand-cuts-for-canadian-farmers. nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-edmonton-gets-another-slap-in-the-face-from-ottawa.
            Read that article closer. That guy believes in climate change and something must be done. He just wants someone else to pay for it, same as the city voters who want industry to pay for it.

            Anyone who swallowed that hoax from the start shouldnt mind paying up, that guy included.

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              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              Read that article closer. That guy believes in climate change and something must be done. He just wants someone else to pay for it, same as the city voters who want industry to pay for it.

              Anyone who swallowed that hoax from the start shouldnt mind paying up, that guy included.
              Actually Jazz I believe I responded to John’s question about climate change by saying that”the climate has changed”. In the same question he asked me if governments should do something about it. My response was”I believe it is government’s responsibility to harmonize it’s response with other nations of the world in a way that is effective but does not disadvantage Canadian industries. What Justin Trudeau is doing will be a great disadvantage to Canada in relation to the rest of the world without having any realistic affect on climate change!” So no I haven’t swallowed the hoax but the unfortunate reality is if I tell John that I think climate change is a hoax then the article will become about how I am a climate denier and not the much more important issue of the ballooning carbon tax and what it will cost farmers!!!

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                #8
                It is a hoax....Canada could go back to the days of prairie and buffalo before the settlers came and it wouldn't make one phucking bit of difference in the whole scheme of things to the planet...

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                  #9
                  Had no idea it was you in the article hamloc, apologies.

                  My point is the media and this propaganda are relentless and it has worn so many people down they just agree to it so the pain might stop. That never works with the left. They will keep pushing until you are out of business. That is their end goal.

                  You have to ask yourself the question, what is the agenda. There is about to be 2B more people on the planet and someone wants to restrict the major first world countries from meeting that demand. Why? What are they trying to achieve? No other countries have the ability to expand production to meet that unless you want to clear cut the amazon.

                  What is the goal?
                  Last edited by jazz; Dec 17, 2020, 09:41.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Had no idea it was you in the article hamloc, apologies.

                    My point is the media and this propaganda are relentless and it has worn so many people down they just agree to it so the pain might stop. That never works with the left. They will keep pushing until you are out of business. That is their end goal.

                    You have to ask yourself the question, what is the agenda. There is about to be 2B more people on the planet and someone wants to restrict the major first world countries from meeting that demand. Why? What are they trying to achieve? No other countries have the ability to expand production to meet that unless you want to clear cut the amazon.

                    What is the goal?
                    No offence taken Jazz. Only a small part of what John and I discussed is in the article. And yes I agree that those on the left will never be satisfied! What is the goal, certainly a good question, in Justin Trudeau’s case it is to get re-elected. With the $170 carbon tax he is trying to make the NDP and the Greens irrelevant!

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                      Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
                      The liberanos are stuffing their bank accounts. at the tax payers expense. They really need to be in jail. Not sure why sask just cant say no to the carbon tax. It’s time to cut ties with Ottawa
                      If the Conservative Party doesn’t get a majority in the next election after all the Trudeau, Morneau, Climate Builder/Barbie, WE, Aga Kahn, etc scandals the writing will be on the wall.

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                        #12
                        Hamloc Ibelieve you nailed it with, ”I believe it is government’s responsibility to harmonize it’s response with other nations of the world in a way that is effective but does not disadvantage Canadian industries. What Justin Trudeau is doing will be a great disadvantage.
                        I also think our SK government is to blame also for not having our own carbon tax plan with carbon credits available to those that store carbon as studied by the SSCA. By no means am I advocating a carbon tax or against fighting the tax in court but having the Feds impose their carbon tax on us puts us at a disadvantage.

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                          #13
                          Hamloc, I read the link that you provided (never open them up) only after you point out to Jazz that you were being interviewed by John. I hope I got this right.

                          But anyways, Good on you Hamloc, you obviously did some heavy work in between to get John's attention.

                          Taking matters on personally is very admirable.
                          Last edited by foragefarmer; Dec 17, 2020, 10:27.

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                            #14
                            Pay your carbon taxes! Do as your Liberal overlords say but not do......

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                              #15
                              All m saying is I think we farmers and our organizations blew the whole thing. When your dealing with a dense liberal you can never win they okie forward and don’t care who they hurt all for the good in their mind.

                              It’s to late the genie is out of the bottle and we can’t stuff her back in.

                              It’s cities against us and they control the vote and narrative.

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