You want to compete against a US treasury??????

[sumdumguy]

Canadian Agriculture is a winner, all right SF. 👎 No one wants to dirty their hands in a show-down.

[malleefarmer]

Is it right fair moral that farmers get subsidies etc?

We get 39 cents per litre back for or diesel fuel and 28c for gas.

Basically road taxes etc in cost fuel farmer fisheries forestry get rebate.

That’s it for us. Sink or swim after that.

[bucket]

Bucket, to be clear are you asking for more dryland farmers to get irrigation support? I think you should quit advocating for that, too many of us feel enough government money has been spent on those projects. Enough already!

Nope not advocating for more irrigation support ...if a farmer wants irrigation he can write the cheque and get the same subsidy as dryland farmers....

In the US, some programs are based on production....others are a simple per acre payment....I doubt they have anything as stupid as agristabilty


In Canada .. farmers are treated with little value...another 100000 irrigation acres won't increase production to offset the capital costs...compared to keeping 30 million acres of dryland helping the economy for far less than the irrigation.

[Sheepwheat]

Is it right fair moral that farmers get subsidies etc?

We get 39 cents per litre back for or diesel fuel and 28c for gas.

Basically road taxes etc in cost fuel farmer fisheries forestry get rebate.

That’s it for us. Sink or swim after that.

When I drive through this area, there are next to zero farms I see that seem to need help imho. Not anymore. Things changed this last decade. Every farm, bar none, or extremely few, has made extreme strides in size, in iron, bin building, in rent values. Whether it is expansion based on increased land values, or genuine cash available after taxes, most sure seem to be doing pretty darn good.

If it is not actually accurate and true, well, the facade can only last so long...

I’ve said it before, and I will say it again, no one is holding a gun to our head...

[bucket]

Yup, 20 buck an acre.

My one neighbor gets 400 000. He outbids, knocks on doors, waves the chequebook at prospective landlords. He needs the 400 000.

My other neighbor gets 18 000. He has been trying to compete with neighbor number one, to find land that could help him become viable someday. He could be the future, while the other guy is retirement age.

Sounds fair, real fair.

Devils advocate bucket. Er, maybe just advocating that any payment should be based on actual need, not desire.

There are farms that with each member having a company got multiples of the CEBA payment....then they used the government grant money to make their agri-invest payment ...government money to get more government money...

[Oliver88]

Are you suggesting Canada mirrors the USA farm crop insurance programs and prevent plant programs?

[bucket]

Are you suggesting Canada mirrors the USA farm crop insurance programs and prevent plant programs?

I think there is something to be learned from how they treat their farmers in the states.

As usual I don't know all the details of the programs but having SFA in Canada is not healthy in the long run for canadian farmers...

Direct payments seem to be fairly common lately in the states.

[newguy]

I think there is something to be learned from how they treat their farmers in the states.

As usual I don't know all the details of the programs but having SFA in Canada is not healthy in the long run for canadian farmers...

Direct payments seem to be fairly common lately in the states.

Do you realize farm bankruptcies in 2019 were a all time high since the great depression in the Mid west.How are they better off?

[bucket]

Do you realize farm bankruptcies in 2019 were a all time high since the great depression in the Mid west.How are they better off?

That is interesting ..even with all the money that has been thrown at them????

And how are Canadian farms doing in comparison????

[SASKFARMER]

Chuck that was the stupidest comment you ever made. Skippy pissed away almost half a trillion in Less than a year