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    #71
    We’re using every option. Natural gas and radiant heaters, heating pads and heated throws. We like it toasty.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Taiga View Post
      Sure gas leaks and liquids spill, what does that have to do with hydraulic fracturing? You obvious don’t understand what that is, it is just a well stimulation technique. It is not an open wellhead to the atmosphere.
      If a company is spending money on fracking a gas well, pretty sure the gas is tied in after it’s fracked. Unless it’s a new area and is being tested to see if it’s feasible

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        #73
        Originally posted by Taiga View Post
        Sure gas leaks and liquids spill, what does that have to do with hydraulic fracturing? You obvious don’t understand what that is, it is just a well stimulation technique. It is not an open wellhead to the atmosphere.
        I would like your comments on points 1 and 2 that explains what happens when fracking takes place It is not spilling petro as you suggest. It is releasing 40 to 60 percent more methane than conventional natural gas wells

        2.Fracking releases large amounts of natural gas – which consists of both CO2 and methane – directly into the atmosphere. In fact, fracking wells leak 40 to 60 per cent more methane than conventional natural gas wells.

        3 This happens when water is forced down into a fracking well in order to fracture the rock formations. Methane flows up the well and is released into the atmosphere before it can be captured.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
          I would like your comments on points 1 and 2 that explains what happens when fracking takes place It is not spilling petro as you suggest. It is releasing 40 to 60 percent more methane than conventional natural gas wells

          2.Fracking releases large amounts of natural gas – which consists of both CO2 and methane – directly into the atmosphere. In fact, fracking wells leak 40 to 60 per cent more methane than conventional natural gas wells.

          3 This happens when water is forced down into a fracking well in order to fracture the rock formations. Methane flows up the well and is released into the atmosphere before it can be captured.
          May be a small amount of entrained gas in the flowback water that is released when stored on surface.
          40 to 60% more of ‘negligible’ equates to … ‘almost negligible’.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
            Please don't read or take the time to respond or inform yourself.
            You feel you know more than the scientists from Cornell. All I can say is good for you.

            Here is the study for folks like me that may want to take the time to read and understand. Large amounts of methane and CO2 are released from hydrulic fracking. Methane is a harmfull greenhouse gas

            https://naturaljustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/FA-12-Howarth-RichardsBayReview.pdf
            Study was done in the U.S. I believe Canadian standards would be far more stringent in relation to fracking.

            As for the original premise of this thread, ideal house heating fuel is natural gas imo. My second choice would be wood. In my area there is certainly plenty of deadfall available for heating fuel.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Taiga View Post
              May be a small amount of entrained gas in the flowback water that is released when stored on surface.
              40 to 60% more of ‘negligible’ equates to … ‘almost negligible’.
              Your comments are hyperbole and represent nothing scientific or factual. You claim to know more than these scientists and yet provide no analysis. Your arguments are based totally on willful ignorance.

              Methane in particular is a very powerful greenhouse gas. It can trap 20 to 25 times more heat in the atmosphere than CO2
              . Two Cornell scientists who have been studying fracking in the U.S. estimate that in the next 20 years methane will make up 44 per cent of the U.S.’s GHG emissions.
              Along with contributing to global warming pollution, methane leaks kill plants and trees, contribute to ozone formation, and causes natural gas explosions, which have resulted in an average of 17 deaths and 68 injuries per year in the United States alone.

              Fracking is also a health risk
              Residents living amidst the shale gas boom in northeastern B.C. say the industry is making them sick — and their call for government action is being backed by medical health officers.

              Shale gas fracking — blasting water, sand and chemicals into deep, underground rocks to release natural gas — has become a multi-billion dollar industry in northeastern B.C.

              But several farmers who live near gas fields in the Dawson Creek area told CBC News they fear the boom is making them sick, and they are demanding a public health inquiry.

              https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/shale-gas-boom-making-us-sick-say-b-c-residents-1.1061342

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                #77
                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                Study was done in the U.S. I believe Canadian standards would be far more stringent in relation to fracking.

                As for the original premise of this thread, ideal house heating fuel is natural gas imo. My second choice would be wood. In my area there is certainly plenty of deadfall available for heating fuel.
                Alberta Energy Regulator
                What stingent regulations do you have in Alberta???? from article "Cleaning up Alberta's fossil fuel industry could cost an estimated $260 billion, internal regulatory documents warn.

                The staggering financial liabilities for the energy industry’s graveyard of spent facilities were spelled out by a high-ranking official of the Alberta Energy Regulator (AER) in a February presentation to a private audience in Calgary".

                https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/11/01/news/alberta-regulator-privately-estimates-oilpatchs-financial-liabilities-are-hundreds

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                  Study was done in the U.S. I believe Canadian standards would be far more stringent in relation to fracking.

                  As for the original premise of this thread, ideal house heating fuel is natural gas imo. My second choice would be wood. In my area there is certainly plenty of deadfall available for heating fuel.
                  Alberta Energy Regulator
                  What stingent regulations do you have in Alberta???? from article "Cleaning up Alberta's fossil fuel industry could cost an estimated $260 billion, internal regulatory documents warn.

                  The staggering financial liabilities for the energy industry’s graveyard of spent facilities were spelled out by a high-ranking official of the Alberta Energy Regulator (AER) in a February presentation to a private audience in Calgary".

                  https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/11/01/news/alberta-regulator-privately-estimates-oilpatchs-financial-liabilities-are-hundreds

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                    #79
                    Natural Gas storage capacity in Canada is equal to 19.4 billion Tesla Powerwalls

                    That's what's needed to power modern life in a cold climate

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                      #80
                      Sorry buds, I live in and work in the Montney every day, you don’t know what your talking about. A couple of stories from the Narwhal news probably aren’t the best choice for someone obviously uninformed to get up to speed on industry, but good luck on your campaign.

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