A climate success story: How Alberta got off coal power

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Maybe chucky should check and see how much power alberta now buys from montana coal fired power plants. The left are ***in idiots.

And as of right now, Alberta is importing 5 times more electricity from Montana than all wind and solar combined in the province. It was 10 times more a few minutes ago when wind power fell below 0.5% of its capacity. Had a good Chinook blow through before Christmas, and wind was doing great, now dead calm and cloudy.

[makar]

Honest question. Alberta coal production numbers going up down sideways, if it's not dropping and we are not using it someone is getting screwed.

[oneoff]

There are some sidebar stories to "A Climate success story: How Alberta got off coal power" such as iAlberta goes down the tubes; Canadian economy suffers.

Or Alberta Power costs rise despite promise of cheap solar power



Or Alberta loses its ability to even supply its own power needs.

I suppose... it doesn't matter about debt and the West had to be screwed and put in its place though some misguided tactic.

[sumdumguy]

It’s the Canadian way! To lop off its own appendages. What a country! Instead of building on the strength of the regions the wicked East connives to destroy the West. Disfunctional Lunacy

[SASKFARMER]

Some cant figure out Chuck it's real easy he is one messed up mother ****er.

Really wants wind and solar then yaps about Coal.

Don't feed the mental patient.

Glen take your meds.

[chuckChuck]

SF I thought either you or this thread were dead? What happened?

I know that this is shocking news that Alberta and Saskatchewan both have a provincial carbon tax while trying to stop the federal one.

Here is a link to all the rules and regulations under The Management and Reduction of Greenhouse Gases Act in Saskatchewan.

https://www.saskatchewan.ca/business/environmental-protection-and-sustainability/a-made-in-saskatchewan-climate-change-strategy/legislation-and-regulations https://www.saskatchewan.ca/business/environmental-protection-and-sustainability/a-made-in-saskatchewan-climate-change-strategy/legislation-and-regulations

[shtferbrains]

How much do they have to increase it to get off the federal imposed carbon tax?

[Hamloc]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/saskatchewan-carbon-pricing-for-large-emitters-new-1.5851622 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/saskatchewan-carbon-pricing-for-large-emitters-new-1.5851622

Saskatchewan increases carbon price for large emitters to $40 per tonne

Chuck2 my outlook is this, in Canada the impact of catastrophic government policy will be much more immediate and far reaching than the impact of so called catastrophic global warming will ever be!

[oneoff]

Does this explain the CBC Dec 22/2020 news story. I think it does and part of that story is a reported $750M dollar orphan well and abandonment program. Most benefit to the companies who have neglected their responsibilities; and the provinces who are on the hook when the can can no longer be kicked any further. Here's the Gov't of Canada news release who are spinning it to make it look like the oil producing provinces are onside (which they are)



QUOTE Government of Canada working with provinces to reduce methane emissions from oil and gas operations
From: Environment and Climate Change Canada

News release
An oil and gas production site with drilling rig
Regulations to reduce methane emissions apply to oil and gas production activities across Canada.
November 5, 2020 – Ottawa, Ontario

The Government of Canada is committed to tackling climate change by working with the provinces, territories, Indigenous Peoples, and stakeholders across the country. Together, we are reducing greenhouse gas emissions while creating jobs and driving innovation.

Today, the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, the Honourable Jonathan Wilkinson, announced that the Government of Canada has finalized equivalency agreements with the provinces of Alberta, British Columbia, and Saskatchewan. These agreements will allow strengthened provincial methane regulations to replace the federal regulations for up to five years. Agreements were finalized with Alberta and Saskatchewan, this fall, and with British Columbia, earlier this year.

These equivalency agreements represent a flexible approach that enables provinces and territories to design methane regulations that best suit their respective jurisdictions while meeting equivalent emissions-reduction outcomes to the federal regulations.

Reducing methane pollution from the oil and gas sector is an essential pillar of Canada’s climate plan. These efforts will also ensure that the oil and gas sector remains competitive globally as investors and consumers increasingly look for low-carbon products.

Canada recently launched the $750 million Emissions Reduction Fund, in part, to achieve methane reductions above and beyond those prescribed in the federal regulations. The Fund will help maintain jobs and opportunities by positioning industry to be greener—and thus more globally competitive in the longer term. Interested companies can now submit funding applications through Natural Resources Canada’s website.

The Government of Canada remains committed to reducing methane emissions from the oil and gas sector by 40 to 45 percent below 2012 levels, by 2025. The Government will monitor and review the effectiveness of the federal regulations and will continue to work with provincial partners, civil society, and industry to ensure that these objectives are achieved. The Government of Canada will publicly report on the efficacy of the suite of federal actions to achieve the 2025 methane target, in late 2021.

Methane emissions from oil and gas sector (millions of tonnes)
- - 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
British Columbia Federal regulations 1.8 1.7 1.8 1.3 1.3 1.3
- Provincial regulations 1.8 1.8 1.4 1.4 1.3 1.2
Alberta Federal regulations 29.6 28.7 27.7 23.1 23.3 23.5
- Provincial regulations 29.6 29.3 28.4 23.6 23.6 23.6
Saskatchewan Federal regulations 11.1 11.1 11.1 6.9 6.9 n/a
- Provincial regulations 9.9 9.5 9.5 9.1 9.0 n/a
Quotes
“Canadians want their governments to continue to take action on climate change during the COVID-19 pandemic. I am pleased the federal government has reached equivalency agreements with Alberta, British Columbia, and Saskatchewan to reduce methane emissions from their oil and gas sectors. These efforts lay the groundwork for the next steps we need to take as a country to exceed our 2030 climate target.”
– The Honourable Jonathan Wilkinson, Minister of Environment and Climate Change
Quick facts
The federal regulations came into force on January 1, 2020.

Other Government of Canada initiatives will lead to additional reductions of methane emissions, including the Emissions Reduction Fund, funding to clean up dormant and orphan wells, and the upcoming Clean Fuel Standard.

There are a number of requirements to establish an equivalency agreement. Provincial regulations must deliver equivalent environmental outcomes and meet a number of other conditions such as having adequate legal structures for public investigations on alleged offences. UNQUOTE

[chuckChuck]

The current Saskatchewan government is good at distorting and hiding the truth. A lot of what they say is just politics. Keep digging.

They clearly have a plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions even if it is not a good one.

[chuckChuck]

Renewable energy breaks UK record in first quarter of 2020

‘Substantial increase’ in wind and solar power helped to generate 47% of Britain’s electricity

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/25/renewable-energy-breaks-uk-record-in-first-quarter-of-2020 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/25/renewable-energy-breaks-uk-record-in-first-quarter-of-2020

"The government’s official data has revealed that renewable energy made up 47% of the UK’s electricity generation in the first three months of the year, smashing the previous quarterly record of 39% set last year."

Looks like the UK has had success with getting off coal generation by adding a tremendous amount of wind and some solar.

[Guest]

The current Saskatchewan government is good at distorting and hiding the truth. A lot of what they say is just politics. Keep digging.

They clearly have a plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions even if it is not a good one.

You are f u c k I n g hilarious
It doesn’t matter how many facts or figures contradict your horseshit , you just keep spewing it out
You seem to be oblivious to the fact that you missed the boat

[AlbertaFarmer5]

It got even worse over night. Alberta's coal currently producing more than 1000 times more electricity than Alberta's solar and wind. Which is as low as 3 MW out of 1900 MW capacity. Importing 78 MW from Montana. 26 times more than wind and solar are putting out.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So far today, wind has ranged between 2 and 4 MW, out of 1781 MW installed. 22 out of 24 wind farms are producing zero all morning. Actually less than zero, since there are significant parasitic losses to a wind turbine with no wind.

[Guest]

could you imagine if our imaginary news media people actually reported on this scam