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    #25
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Maybe not an immediate threat in 2021, but gaining momentum in 2021.

    https://news.theearthsite.greatergood.com/bill-gates-dimming-sun-harvard/ https://news.theearthsite.greatergood.com/bill-gates-dimming-sun-harvard/
    Geoengineering to dim the sun. Small scale experiments are planned for 2021.

    Politicians, economics, debt, taxes, regulations are all short term problems, mostly on paper, at the end of the day, the productive assets still exist, and one way or another reality will prevail and we will pick up the pieces and get back to being productive again.

    Geoengineering has the potential to ruin our most productive asset, possibly for a long time, especially when it coincides with an already entrenched cooling phase.

    The articles on this topic are always focused on the man financing it. Personally I have nothing against Bill Gates and his philanthropy, I don't buy into the conspiracy theories, but this crosses the line from genuine ( if misplaced at times) philanthropy, and needs to be stopped by all means possible, any where and any time it is attempted.
    I think what is interesting is that on one hand he wants to fill the lower atmosphere with dust to create a sun shade, dim the sun. On the other hand he wants more solar and wind generated electricity. Wouldn’t dimming the sun lower the output from solar panels?!

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      #26
      Biggest threat? The educated informed consumer

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        #27
        Biggest threat there is mis educated, misinformed.

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          #28
          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          Biggest threat there is mis educated, misinformed.
          Interesting points. I had typed up a response that included consumer connections to farmers. Then I deleted it. But I agree, the consumers disconnect from us as producers is a big hurdle, and gets bigger every year as the disconnect gets wider.

          As we market our lambs how we have been doing, one gets a more intimate understanding of their needs, their misunderstandings, their expectations. It really opened my eyes.

          But producing commodities doesn’t generally allow for a solid connection and so it is a hard thing to rectify. It is easier when you are one on one with your buyers, and are able to have those important conversations and have the ability to sway opinion on farming in a positive way.

          I do believe that in a lot of ways, the consumer thought on agriculture today, is a big hurdle and we would do well to embrace conversation with them.

          Unfortunately, overall, with farming as it is today, it is almost impossible to make meaningful connections. Until people eat raw canola seed, oats in the hull, and wheat out of the bin, this isn’t going to change.

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            #29
            Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
            I do believe that in a lot of ways, the consumer thought on agriculture today, is a big hurdle and we would do well to embrace conversation with them.
            Umm, no that would be a bad idea. Other industries have tried that and only got grief. When the consumer is that disconnected and misinformed its better to leave them that way. They dont have the real world reasoning skills anymore and have drank up the propaganda.

            Not sure what talking to them would do any way. They arent going to volunteer to pay more. They will just tell the govt to tax us harder cause its all corporate farms now.

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              #30
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              Maybe not an immediate threat in 2021, but gaining momentum in 2021.

              https://news.theearthsite.greatergood.com/bill-gates-dimming-sun-harvard/ https://news.theearthsite.greatergood.com/bill-gates-dimming-sun-harvard/
              Geoengineering to dim the sun. Small scale experiments are planned for 2021.

              Politicians, economics, debt, taxes, regulations are all short term problems, mostly on paper, at the end of the day, the productive assets still exist, and one way or another reality will prevail and we will pick up the pieces and get back to being productive again.

              Geoengineering has the potential to ruin our most productive asset, possibly for a long time, especially when it coincides with an already entrenched cooling phase.

              The articles on this topic are always focused on the man financing it. Personally I have nothing against Bill Gates and his philanthropy, I don't buy into the conspiracy theories, but this crosses the line from genuine ( if misplaced at times) philanthropy, and needs to be stopped by all means possible, any where and any time it is attempted.
              We are already plying with the weather in the form of hail supression. This makes it a lot wetter in western Alberta and dryer in eastern Alberta and govern.ments are fine with that

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                #31
                Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                Liberals in Ottawa.

                TRUDEAU
                This is our biggest threat since 2015 and the paid off media cheer him on.
                All full time farmers in Western Canada are a target.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by tubs View Post
                  We are already plying with the weather in the form of hail supression. This makes it a lot wetter in western Alberta and dryer in eastern Alberta and govern.ments are fine with that
                  Governments may be fine with that, but some of us western farmers on the receiving end are not. Our crops are sacrificed to small man made hail, to save consumers assets further east. Like clockwork, the cloud seeding planes go west overhead, and a big dump of rain and small hail follows. Which is exactly what their stated intention is. To create lots of nuclei that will make lots more small hail or rain drops that fall out sooner, instead of building into large hailstones andd falling out later.
                  Makes haying a real challenge too when we get the moisture that was intended to fall further east where they actually appreciate it.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Umm, no that would be a bad idea. Other industries have tried that and only got grief. When the consumer is that disconnected and misinformed its better to leave them that way. They dont have the real world reasoning skills anymore and have drank up the propaganda.

                    Not sure what talking to them would do any way. They arent going to volunteer to pay more. They will just tell the govt to tax us harder cause its all corporate farms now.
                    When I talk, I set the price. It’s nice setting the price. And eta. Talking almost always leads to sales in the first place.
                    Last edited by Sheepwheat; Jan 1, 2021, 13:18.

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by wiseguy
                      This is America !

                      We won't let liberals destroy it !
                      You must have turned your GPS off.Besides the heel spur draft Dodger already has set it on a path to destruction.
                      Last edited by agstar77; Jan 1, 2021, 16:36.

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                        #35
                        Biggest general threat is the Trudeau Liberals.

                        Biggest specific threat is the Clean Fuel Standard that the Trudeau Liberals are forcing on the country.

                        Lynne Di Cocco
                        @Fealty2facts
                        Replying to
                        @GasPriceWizard
                        One has to question whether the end game is to drive family farms out of business with regulation and sky high input costs so that the means of production can be bought & controlled by large corporations & elite. Same m/o as oil & gas sectors.

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                          #36
                          Not sure if its the biggest threat but a close contender

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