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    #13
    And further to Blaithin's comment, the ambient temp is completely irrelevant to the temp inside a bin. I freeze all my canola in mid winter, when I pull it out in July, or even August, it can still be -20. It takes months to move the core of a 19' bin. Smaller bins without fans with grain I moved back at 20 above, is still in the high teens now at the end of December.

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      #14
      Cbc had an article about climate change in PEI. Some random guy on there stated that they used to have -30C when he was a kid, and now they don’t.

      So I took liberty to check PEI climate data. Turns out the record low ever for PEI was minus 27C.

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        #15
        Let me float a big hypothetical here. If our climate changes to something similar to Texas, Oklahoma or Kansas, Canadian agriculture will cease to exist right?

        SARCASM!!!

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          #16
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          And further to Blaithin's comment, the ambient temp is completely irrelevant to the temp inside a bin. I freeze all my canola in mid winter, when I pull it out in July, or even August, it can still be -20. It takes months to move the core of a 19' bin. Smaller bins without fans with grain I moved back at 20 above, is still in the high teens now at the end of December.
          Yes, ambient temperature, grain temperature and bug life is a good example of a pests ability to withstand cold and why they burrow into things. Just because it’s -30 outside definitely doesn’t mean it’s that cold where the pests are.

          https://www.saskatchewan.ca/business/agriculture-natural-resources-and-industry/agribusiness-farmers-and-ranchers/crops-and-irrigation/insects/insects-and-mould-in-stored-grain

          That incredibly long URL has a good table for what temperature the grain has to be at, and for how long, to kill Rusty’s. Now I can say, because moisture testers tell grain temperature, that even grain run through an auger into a truck and hauled down a road at -25 rarely, if ever, tests much below -10. It’s still that warm in the bins that cold weather takes a while to influence it even when moved and exposed to the air.

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            #17
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            "Strange weather", and speculation about future pests isn't particularly scientific.
            Have you sifted through the weather records?
            Is this completely without precedent in your area?
            If there is precedent within Modern recorded history, What were the consequences in previous events?

            If your goal of this post was to convince the rest of us to take this threat as seriously as you do, Then prefacing it with the above mentioned research results would be a very good start.
            My Grandfather and Grandmother were married Christmas Day 1918. In the pictures there is no snow and everyone is in shirt sleeves, a very warm beautiful day apparently. So not without precedent!

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              #18
              Ain’t got no control over the “weather” so no worrying going on here. I think for us Ma Nature is making up for the crummy weather over the last few years. Lots of winter left to get that miserable white cold stuff yet.

              Enjoy it in the meantime 😎
              Beautiful night here for fireworks to send off 2020🍻

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                #19
                the norm is ; climate has always been changing , always will

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                  #20
                  Always winter here! Just wish some of that warm air would move in. -18 with a good foot of snow that has been here since the beginning of Nov. and its been down to -30 a couple times and often -20. Youngest daughter born in 1997 on Dec.18 with no snow on the ground and hardly any freezing temps yet that year.

                  I had my wheat crop planted fairly early this spring and thanks to a cool May, June and half of July I still have minor frost damage on my wheat sample. All this with the climate warming three times faster here than anywhere else.

                  This warming idea just seems ridiculous to me!

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                    Cbc had an article about climate change in PEI. Some random guy on there stated that they used to have -30C when he was a kid, and now they don’t.

                    So I took liberty to check PEI climate data. Turns out the record low ever for PEI was minus 27C.
                    DO NOT , I REPEAT , DO NOT , bring any facts into this horseshit propaganda machines workings
                    strange that CBC wouldn't of fact checked that , would of been simple , strange for a national newscast to put out shit like that ?
                    Last edited by Guest; Dec 31, 2020, 15:32.

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                      #22
                      Was pulling tree stumps out yesterday with skidsteer on fenceline, no frost. This time last year we already had 10 weeks of winter and i was sick of it. Nice to start tractors in morning and not hear whining hyd for couple of mins. Lots of time for winter before frogs start singing.

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                        #23
                        Case, " so I took the liberty" to check out if indeed it ever was -30c in PEI according to the CBC story. Seems the party being interviewed by the CBC had his facts straight. PEI does go below -30C


                        Here's what I found doing a "simple fact check" on google. conversations -27F = -32.77C -30F= -34.4C

                        Location Time Period Record Record Date Zoom
                        Alberton, PE All Time Record Low -27 °F February 27, 1990
                        Charlottetown, PE All Time Record Low -23 °F January 18, 1982
                        East Point, PE All Time Record Low -30 °F December 15, 1980
                        New Glasgow, PE All Time Record Low -30 °F February 07, 1993
                        Alberton, PE All Time Record Low -27 °F February 27, 1990
                        Charlottetown, PE All Time Record Low -23 °F January 18, 1982
                        East Point, PE All Time Record Low -30 °F December 15, 1980
                        New Glasgow, PE All Time Record Low -30 °F February 07, 1993


                        Just thought you should know that CBC must have done a "fact check".

                        That's twice in two days I've pointed out to you the CBC does a decent job!!

                        Happy New Year!
                        Last edited by foragefarmer; Dec 31, 2020, 16:57.

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                          #24
                          Except Forage, CBC doesn’t think anybody notices that our PM has been missing, Sophie too, but not necessarily together. Now there’s a paper who is the pulse of the nation!

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