https://responsiblegrain.ca/

[blackpowder]

I'm trying to imagine a response to a question posed by a downtown urban dweller.
Those whom this is designed for.
It goes something like this:
The best incentive for responsible stewardship is core asset appreciation.
If my business depends on profits from very expensive assets I'm going to be responsible.
Looking around it seems to me pollution, erosion, and waste only happens when land is too
"cheap". The same applies to a labor force. The cheaper it is to rent a human body for the day,
the more you find abuse.

Getting ahead of the curve regarding consumer confidence is fine.
But lets not forget that the majority of our production is low margin, common commodity
dumped into the same arena as our least watched competitors'.

[Sheepwheat]

I am talking about the engineers and agronomists that see a windfall by more regulations....its job security....

Exactly. And seed growers.

[blackpowder]

The scope of this appears to be wider than just seed.
Input, and land usage and a labor code of practice among others.
Seem to be all written by a trudeau speech writer.
Just wondered if anyone cares beyond the usual bitching
or even knew about it.

[SASKFARMER]

I got it in a tweet or email I forget. Looked into it and then realized we are doing this already but to impress the urban vote it’s like A&W smoke and mirror agriculture

[burnt]

I am talking about the engineers and agronomists that see a windfall by more regulations....its job security....

Regulated to use an engineer for about any on-farm project anymore.

I put up a GSI 6 x 27' granary last fall, had to get a building permit which cost $450 and needed an engineered print for the base even though the GSI website had it spec'ed out, also $450.

It's called mandated thievery. Mark that term down and use it when you run into that situation and watch their expression..

So of course the guys that benefit from more regs love it.

And all these developments are a product of UN Habitat 1 which directs all new development to be controlled by the "public" and taxed on both the development and the usage with the proceeds being returned to the "public good".

Read it here for yourself:

https://unhabitat.org/sites/default/files/download-manager-files/The_Vancouver_Declaration_1976.pdf https://unhabitat.org/sites/default/files/download-manager-files/The_Vancouver_Declaration_1976.pdf

Pay close attention the the section "Land" pg 28 (38 of 54)

Any and all such initiatives such as "responsible grain" are a instrument for the furtherance of the U.N. agenda to gain complete control over every aspect of our lives. Tom think that your in0putr will actually make a difference - well, feel free...

So ya, just chip in your 2 cents worth and watch it disappear into the sinkhole of predetermined outcome. But they can then "honestly" say that they consulted with the "stakeholders" and "this is what they said they wanted".

What a bunch of liars.

One tack I've taken is to refuse to be called a "stakeholder" when it comes to decisions made for my property. The very term denotes a communist concept.

Not that it does much other than mark me as someone who needs to be "watched".

[burnt]

Best response is to adamantly ask the group to disband and leave your industry alone.

[blackpowder]

Do something or nothing it's coming.
Outright rejection will see its arrival in its present form or worse.
Why not a Right To Farm type legislation at same time?

[mcfarms]

All I will say on this is its been coming for 20 years the first Canadian on farm food safety program was designed in 2001 and piloted on farm in 2002 we were a pilot project operation and passed the audit.
HOWEVER giving something and getting nothing in return is a mistake , we're Certified Sustainable Beef and I just got my cheque for the july-sept period which is not huge but its something , on 200 head of calves if they go through cargills program you'd get around 3000.00 this year about only a 1 to 1.25 percent premium over sales value but grain farm with sales of 1 to 2 million should also be able to look to the end user or consumer that wants these programs for that same percentage and receive 10-20 thousand for the paperwork time and effort( and additional costs ) required for such a program.
Unless feedback is given you'll end up the same place we ended up with the carbon tax, doing all the right things getting taxed anyway and getting no recognition for our efforts.

[burnt]

All I will say on this is its been coming for 20 years the first Canadian on farm food safety program was designed in 2001 and piloted on farm in 2002 we were a pilot project operation and passed the audit.
HOWEVER giving something and getting nothing in return is a mistake , we're Certified Sustainable Beef and I just got my cheque for the july-sept period which is not huge but its something , on 200 head of calves if they go through cargills program you'd get around 3000.00 this year about only a 1 to 1.25 percent premium over sales value but grain farm with sales of 1 to 2 million should also be able to look to the end user or consumer that wants these programs for that same percentage and receive 10-20 thousand for the paperwork time and effort( and additional costs ) required for such a program.
Unless feedback is given you'll end up the same place we ended up with the carbon tax, doing all the right things getting taxed anyway and getting no recognition for our efforts.

I have to concur.

I just hate fighting a retreat.

[jazz]

Looks like the Ag More than ever crowd leading the charge. If only we could just get our story to consumers they would love us.

Sustainable grain to the radical left is basically not growing it at all.