No pressure eh !

[malleefarmer]

Lucky Bay is an innovative port development on South Australia’s Eyre Peninsula.
The $130 million development is South Australia’s first farmer and private equity partnership port, which involved securing private investor equity and debt.
After an expression of interest phase in 2018, 120 EP grain growers indicated their support for the project with 377,000 tonnes of estimated throughput.
These growers will acquire equity in the port for ongoing throughput over the next seven years.

This one in my state.

Outloads minerals as well as grain

[LEP]

I have suggested solutions....impossible ...not at all if you understood the area...


To move or reroute a highway if the work has to be done for upgrading is not that difficult...

You are defending the grainco's right to use the highway to improve their logistics with a rail line that runs 100 feet parallel to that highway all the way to Moose jaw from Eyebrow...

Defend the graincos....I am providing solutions that work for both the grainco and farmers in that area...

Moving the highway is hardly a solution that works for the grain co and farmer. FFS.

If you can make a case for more elevator capacity in the area, nothing is stopping you from organizing a group and doing it.

[bucket]

Moving the highway is hardly a solution that works for the grain co and farmer. FFS.

If you can make a case for more elevator capacity in the area, nothing is stopping you from organizing a group and doing it.

You do realize the Saskatchewan government has announced a multi-billion dollar irrigation project for the area....

Seems odd that for rotational production there wouldn't be a need for grain infrastructure????

They just finished rebuilding the highway from Eyebrow to Moose Jaw a couple of years ago....not a lick of sense or vision to build to primary standards....Viterra destroyed the highway trucking grain out that point in less than a week when there ws perfectly good railway beside it....if you want i can provide the farmers phone number and he can explain when he pulled the truck out of the highway with his 550 hp tractor....


So they still need to finish the highway from Eyebrow to Central Butte sometime....while they do that they could easily go around Eyebrow to accommodate a larger rail spot...they went around Regina ..I doubt it would cost that much to go around a town instead of through it.....any way since Viterra is the only grainco on the rail line from Moose Jaw to GDT ...with the right straight spot instead of a loop they could load a 100 plus cars....

If it cant be done...how the phuck did the regina bypass get designed and built....1/10000th the scale at Eyebrow....could be done with some of that irrigation money...

Crazy that they wouldn't want something that would support all farmers in the area...

Hopefully another grainco will see the potential....of 100000 acres of irrigated land to justify a new build ...

[Blaithin]

Set up a CoOp, buy the Eyebrow elevator, and use it to make the millions you see, Bucket.

That’s not impossible, however the hurdles involved in getting the elevator operating successfully may be a surprise.

Battle River Railway is a semi local co operative that I know of. They bought a short line railway that was going to be shut down. A farmer coop is a good solution for some small population, rural areas getting cut out of corporate services.

Just make sure it doesn’t turn into the elevator that Mallee recently posted about that failed shortly after purchase.

[Blaithin]

You do realize the Saskatchewan government has announced a multi-billion dollar irrigation project for the area....

Seems odd that for rotational production there wouldn't be a need for grain infrastructure????

They just finished rebuilding the highway from Eyebrow to Moose Jaw a couple of years ago....not a lick of sense or vision to build to primary standards....Viterra destroyed the highway trucking grain out that point in less than a week when there ws perfectly good railway beside it....if you want i can provide the farmers phone number and he can explain when he pulled the truck out of the highway with his 550 hp tractor....


So they still need to finish the highway from Eyebrow to Central Butte sometime....while they do that they could easily go around Eyebrow to accommodate a larger rail spot...they went around Regina ..I doubt it would cost that much to go around a town instead of through it.....any way since Viterra is the only grainco on the rail line from Moose Jaw to GDT ...with the right straight spot instead of a loop they could load a 100 plus cars....

If it cant be done...how the phuck did the regina bypass get designed and built....1/10000th the scale at Eyebrow....could be done with some of that irrigation money...

Crazy that they wouldn't want something that would support all farmers in the area...

Hopefully another grainco will see the potential....of 100000 acres of irrigated land to justify a new build ...

Wait... you watched Viterra pay to truck out instead of use the rail and you still think the rail will easily cooperate for an increased capacity elevator?

Maybe you don’t quite understand the relationship between railways and graincos.

[bucket]

Set up a CoOp, buy the Eyebrow elevator, and use it to make the millions you see, Bucket.

That’s not impossible, however the hurdles involved in getting the elevator operating successfully may be a surprise.

Battle River Railway is a semi local co operative that I know of. They bought a short line railway that was going to be shut down. A farmer coop is a good solution for some small population, rural areas getting cut out of corporate services.

Just make sure it doesn’t turn into the elevator that Mallee recently posted about that failed shortly after purchase.

You sound like my MP ....buy the elevator....nonsense...

How about instead of using "" its a business decision """ excuse to defend Viterra's decision.....the government says they will send the highway repair bill to Viterra since they didn't want to use the rail...

Here is what is really stupid....Eyebrow is the closest point 20 miles...i now deliver to Strongfield 45miles occasionally to the north ...the rail line I drive beside all the way there to deliver grain gets loaded on a train and goes right back past Eyebrow to Moose Jaw to the mainline...All viterra.....

If you dont know how phucking stupid this is ....do some research...wrecking a highway to Strongfield/GDT when there is a railway makes no good business or infrastructure sense...

Like I said...maybe another grainco will build in this area....there is 6 major terminals at Swift Current now and 4 at Moose Jaw .....one more in the area with increased production coming would definitely be a good thing for all farmers...dryland and irrigated...

[bucket]

Or better yet when a constituent asked the MP to have the competition bureau look at the fact there is no competition on that branch line or in the area ...they actually do it instead of saying it a business decision...

And force the sale of a perfectly good elevator to the competition like what happened when the last re-alignment happened with the demise of agricore.

Or better yet the competition bureau doesnt ignore the request when explained...

Part of the reason Viterra could have elevators at Moose Jaw , Eyebrow and Strongfield the the agricore merger went down was because GDT was still partly farmer owned....it eventually was bought out by Viterra and the bureau should have reviewed the decision....they won't.

[Blaithin]

You’re the one saying there’s money to be made in the area, all while companies with the ability to make that money have seemingly deemed it not worth their while.

You can’t make a business choose to operate in an area. If you think the area can support such a business then there’s two options; complain that nobody is doing it or do it yourself.

The amount of new builds going up across the prairies, the companies are definitely researching where to build and scoping out locations. The fact that you’ve repeatedly said there’s not one in that entire stretch makes it sound like there’s some factor(s) at play making the companies not build there.

There’s a reason many of the companies end up bunched up in similar areas together, and it isn’t because of supply.

[bucket]

Wait... you watched Viterra pay to truck out instead of use the rail and you still think the rail will easily cooperate for an increased capacity elevator?

Maybe you don’t quite understand the relationship between railways and graincos.

I might have watched but it was stupid politicians that allowed it to happen...Lyle Stewart wants a billion dollar irrigation project and talks about the vision he had....highway 42 got rebuilt while he was envisioning this grand irrigation scheme and still wasn't smart enough to demand a primary highway upgrade....

How the phuck can you entice business here when the railways won't co-operate and the government is remiss to at least build better infrastructure on a rebuild????


Just little more about the area....essentially straight west of Eyebrow about 35 miles is Riverhurst where ,as they were installing the irrigation some 30 years ago, the elevators were being torn out and being replaced with the one at Eyebrow....rail line to riverhurst disappeared...and the highway is still secondary ...and the irrigation project is still funded 40 bucks an acre

[Blaithin]

How the phuck can you entice business here when the railways won't co-operate and the government is remiss to at least build better infrastructure on a rebuild???

Figure that out and your chances of a high capacity terminal will probably increase. There’s many areas that the local government and regs are the biggest inhibiting factor. Doesn’t matter if everything else is in favour.

[Old Cowzilla]

I can't drive to Swift current and back with a half ton on 60 liters of fuel....let alone a super B

You burn 60 litres an hour in your 1/2 ton , Dodge Hemi ??

[Sodbuster]

Never could figure out why they built that elevator in Eyebrow in the first place, other than the money SWP was throwing around in them years before they went broke, worked on the cement slip when it was built about 30 years ago.

[fjlip]

"the government says they will send the highway repair bill to Viterra since they didn't want to use the rail.."

Wow good discussion! I said this 20 years ago, IF the cost of highways was attached to Concretes, we would still have the smaller elevators by the 100's. Similarly, if we hauled 50 miles to Tisdale, all our grain would go on the train right past our farm back south. A business decision yes, BUT Gov could have put highway costs into play! It's real stupid now.

[malleefarmer]

Is cost of doing bussiness or starting business in Canada sort of outta whack with other western countries?

Seems to be impediments to starting out there?

[Blaithin]

Is cost of doing bussiness or starting business in Canada sort of outta whack with other western countries?

Seems to be impediments to starting out there?

I wouldn’t say it’s out of whack.

Typical cost start ups with anything.

Taxes and building regulations, etc. will vary by location.

Would really depend what’s trying to be started though. A clothes boutique or a feedlot.