So the Left Closed Parler and Gab is down, Twitter is blocking, Yep free country.

[Guest]

I saw this on Facebook tonight: High Tech can shut down Trump on social media but can’t shut down child pornography.??
Here’s a serious question for you ?

[Taiga]

Elon Musk is not impressed and is musing about an alternative platform, that will significantly impact FB and Twit if he chooses to compete.

[jazz]

Facebook busy rigging some more elections; Why not add more corruption to Africa.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uganda-election-facebook-idUSKBN29G14Q?taid=5ffc5b164156da00012e011d&utm_ca mpaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=tru eAnthem&utm_source=twitter Facebook takes down Ugandan pro-Museveni accounts ahead of election

[AlbertaFarmer5]

In part II of Zeihan's article posted a few days ago, specifically about big tech in the post Trump era, he states the following:

And yet social media is absolutely part of – perhaps even the root of – the problem. Facebook's own internal research indicates that 64% of the time a user joins an extremist Facebook group, it is because Facebook recommended the group to the user. This is the same Facebook that sc****s every bit of personal data it can get from your computer and phone and then sells that data to scammers, complete with a data analysis of what sorts of scams Facebook thinks you are most likely to fall for. An eager purchaser of said data and analytics is the Russian bot farm. I trust the implications of that are fairly obvious.

It seems that things are never as simple or cut and dried as we would like them to be.

https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/life-after-trump-part-ii https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/life-after-trump-part-ii

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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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Jan 11
In addition to the German Chancellor & Mexican President, 2 French ministers said they were "shocked" & disturbed by the spate of Silicon Valley censorship, including against Trump, calling tech giants "the digital oligarchy" & a "threat to democracy."

https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/

[AlbertaFarmer5]

This movement should work wonders for uniting the various sides. As people on one side of the political divide abandon the mediums of information sharing(facebook, twitter etc) that they formerly shared with the other side, and move to their own social media platforms, or other, more clandestine methods of sharing info, they won't even be exposed to each others view points anymore.

This censorship of one side is only going to make it worse. Imagine if Chuck and friends all decide to take their ball and go play somewhere else. We would be left in ignorant bliss not being confronted daily by their points of view, and likewise, they would be in the their own bubble, never having their opinions challenged. No common ground, just continue to separate further and further apart, leading to even more civil unrest when the two ( or more) sides find their differences to be irreconcilable. How long would it take to revert back to the tribal/clan type behaviour of our ancestors (or some parts of the world still to this day)? No contact with the tribe, except the occasional war or raid, no cooperation, never learning anything from the collective wisdom.

Not to mention that it will make it even more difficult for authorities to uncover the bad apples before they do something.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer comes to mind.

[Guest]

And sheeple don’t understand that

[dmlfarmer]

This movement should work wonders for uniting the various sides. As people on one side of the political divide abandon the mediums of information sharing(facebook, twitter etc) that they formerly shared with the other side, and move to their own social media platforms, or other, more clandestine methods of sharing info, they won't even be exposed to each others view points anymore.

This censorship of one side is only going to make it worse. Imagine if Chuck and friends all decide to take their ball and go play somewhere else. We would be left in ignorant bliss not being confronted daily by their points of view, and likewise, they would be in the their own bubble, never having their opinions challenged. No common ground, just continue to separate further and further apart, leading to even more civil unrest when the two ( or more) sides find their differences to be irreconcilable. How long would it take to revert back to the tribal/clan type behaviour of our ancestors (or some parts of the world still to this day)? No contact with the tribe, except the occasional war or raid, no cooperation, never learning anything from the collective wisdom.

Not to mention that it will make it even more difficult for authorities to uncover the bad apples before they do something.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer comes to mind.

Mediums of information??? or disinformation. How many right wing sites claim the capital riots were false flag operations? How many on here believe that? Yet in Congress today the House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy stated: ""Some say the riots were caused by antifa. There is absolutely no evidence of that. And conservatives should be the first to say so."
How many believe the election was rigged and have said so on social media. Yet recounts were done in the contested states and it did not change the results. Trump had more than 60 suits claiming election fraud thrown out because the right wing could not present any actual evidence of the fraud. Republican Kevin McCarthy, who voted to overturn the results of the election, now says, "Joe Biden will be sworn in as president in one week because he won the election."
Just because something appears in social media (left or right leaning) does not make it true. Most people are too lazy to confirm or even question postings, provided the postings fits their bias. The censorship is not the fault of media companies but of individuals, up to and including the president, posting lies and conspiracy theories, instead of actual information.
Parler was in fact a right wing attempt (abefore censorship) to "go play somewhere else."

[malleefarmer]

I agree with dml in part.

The far left and far right honestly there are as bad a each other.

Both have blinded followers the rest of us are in the middle trying to figure it out/sort it out or just going about our daily lives ignoring it.

Lead story on left wing news or right wing news darn near every night for last 4 years has been DT.

Gets tiresome.

[dmlfarmer]

I urge everyone to watch the HBO documentary After Truth: Disinformation and the Cost of Fake News

[sumdumguy]

What gets really tiresome is these looney left turds who have nothing better to do than to ride our arses. Get lost DML.

[Sheepwheat]

Some say right and left. I say right and wrong...

[Guest]

What gets really tiresome is these looney left turds who have nothing better to do than to ride our arses. Get lost DML.

Oops not a like
Frozen fingers
Fireplace roaring, time to dream

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Mediums of information??? or disinformation. How many right wing sites claim the capital riots were false flag operations? How many on here believe that? Yet in Congress today the House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy stated: ""Some say the riots were caused by antifa. There is absolutely no evidence of that. And conservatives should be the first to say so."
How many believe the election was rigged and have said so on social media. Yet recounts were done in the contested states and it did not change the results. Trump had more than 60 suits claiming election fraud thrown out because the right wing could not present any actual evidence of the fraud. Republican Kevin McCarthy, who voted to overturn the results of the election, now says, "Joe Biden will be sworn in as president in one week because he won the election."
Just because something appears in social media (left or right leaning) does not make it true. Most people are too lazy to confirm or even question postings, provided the postings fits their bias. The censorship is not the fault of media companies but of individuals, up to and including the president, posting lies and conspiracy theories, instead of actual information.
Parler was in fact a right wing attempt (abefore censorship) to "go play somewhere else."

Either you didn't read my post, or else I'm an even worse communicator than my wife tells me I am.
I didn't say anything about the riots or fake news, or consipiracies or the election, or parler ( hadn't even heard of it before a few days ago).

I am saying that we have a very divided society, and that is at the root of many of the issues going on right now. Kicking one faction out of the conversation is only going to make that division worse.

You have lately claimed that you spend time on Agriville specifically to call out BS. And many ( most I hope) of us are open minded enough to begrudgingly accept your corrections when we are off course. And vice versa ( with the notable exception of Chuck who already knows everything, and a few on the other extreme...)

If I come on here and start spouting off about some conspiracy theory that I just made up, and Agriville kicks me off for spreading fake news. You lose the opportunity to debate me and prove me wrong, in the public arena for all other readers to also see, so the next time they encounter my theory in the gossip chain, they won't know any better, and will believe it. I will take my conspiracy theory elsewhere, and keep spreading it, unfettered. My vast fan club will probably follow me ( Right Bin Lurking?) Now completely paranoid that big brother is out to get us, we will have to meet in person in our Mom's basement with our tinfoil hats where no one can censor or listen in. With no grown ups to set us straight, our conspiracy theories and paranoia will only grow stronger, meanwhile you and Chuck will be the only ones left on Agriville congratulating each other on the consensus you have achieved on... everything. Your group will assume you are right about everything, our group will assume we are right about everything, since neither one ever encounters any dissenting opinions.

Aren't we all better off knowing what the other side is up to?

Looked at another way. The folks who walked into the Capitol were apparently smart enough to supposedly have been planning this all online in plain sight all along. That makes it much easier to prevent and or solve a crime than if you silence them all, and they all go underground communicating by smoke signals.

So if you keep them a part of the conversation, not only do you get the opportunity to try to straighten them out, but you also can see what they are plotting, and do something about it.

The much bigger issue ( and I've posted about this before), is who gets to decide what is fake news?
Do you have an answer as to who you would trust to always know what is true and what isn't? And is the truth fixed in time? A sun centric solar system was fake news at one time, should it still be? Could science and society even progress if contrary evidence is disallowed in public, after all, that is how science progresses.

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Glen Greenwald presents a cogent piece on how the big tech operators - BTOs, if you like - can cooperate to shut down anyone they want to silence.

Anyone.

"How Silicon Valley, in a Show of Monopolistic Force, Destroyed Parler

In the last three months, tech giants have censored political speech and journalism to manipulate U.S. politics, while liberals, with virtual unanimity, have cheered."

Free speech is done.

What never ceases to amaze, though, is that the leftist shrillers who cheer this action on cannot see how it will invariably come back to bite them.

History repeats because of such ignorance.

They display a special kind of obtuse stupidity that is truly disturbing. A stupidity that blinds them to the corrosive evil espoused and promoted by the real threat to peace. The type of threat spewed by mis-characterizations of humanity like the twisted AOC. Or the hate-breathing Rashid. And so on...

These are the ones who have set a determined course to destroy everything that we value.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolistic https://greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolistic