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    #25
    Originally posted by RTK View Post
    What are the odds of me dying of one of the following;

    1. Drug overdose
    2. Car accident
    3. Plane crash
    4. Farm accident
    5. Cancer
    6. Heart attack
    7. Stroke
    8. Back country ski or hiking adventures
    9. Ocean adventure
    10. Hunting Accident
    11. Homicide
    12. Boating accident

    I think I scared myself, I am no longer going to do anything that might have a risk associated with it... I am officially just sitting at home eating and drinking because I see no risk to that plan. I think I can get steaks delivered and hopefully a 40 of spiced rum a day can be sent... ah nothing to worry about... oh wait... nope I see no risk.
    Do you take that many drugs?

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      #26
      Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
      Do you take that many drugs?
      Well, it did make number one on the list

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        #27
        Originally posted by farming101 View Post
        Agreed care homes are where the most vulnerable population is. But how do you protect them when all the workers go home every day? And this to a scenario you would suggest would mean that the virus is basically everywhere.
        That is a great question. I don’t know the answer. But the powers that be should be working out an answer.

        If we’re locked down, may as well have the staff living in the homes with the older folks? Pay them WELL for the short term, to be isolated? Double time for them would be a smaller price to pay IMO than this ridiculous whole society shutdown for nothing.

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          #28
          Sheep wheat - I don’t have the answer but 2 weeks in two weeks out, rapid testing before entry - not sure of accuracy, but obviously if we report test results publicly we must be able to test accurately. I mean surely the government only reports accurately.

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            #29
            Yes... a drug overdose was listed purposely as number one as I believe that is likely my downfall... think I had a couple Tylenol as a child and likely had couple as an adult.

            But given Covid-19 lock down and the legalization of weed I decided now was the time to try some weed. One can only assume after trying a joint I will graduate to harder drugs and hence my fear.

            Seriously, this constant preposterous bombardment of fear is causing problems for far too many people and yes I think drug overdoses, alcohol and generally sitting around is going to cause more deaths and trouble than Covid.

            Covid is real - we just need some prospective on the issue...

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              #30
              Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
              That is a great question. I don’t know the answer. But the powers that be should be working out an answer.

              If we’re locked down, may as well have the staff living in the homes with the older folks? Pay them WELL for the short term, to be isolated? Double time for them would be a smaller price to pay IMO than this ridiculous whole society shutdown for nothing.
              Only double time??? might work for some RNs but what about housekeeping, maintanence, and low paid aides? And most are women that have families at home that they will have to leave for 2 weeks at a time requiring child care. Maybe if you paid them the wages paid to oilfield camp workers which will be way more than double time you might get some takers. Oh, and I had no idea that retirement homes have that many empty beds that they could house not only residents but all staff needed as well. No wonder if costs so much for elderly care when so much space is not being used.

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                #31
                Originally posted by RTK View Post
                What are the odds of me dying of one of the following;

                1. Drug overdose
                2. Car accident
                3. Plane crash
                4. Farm accident
                5. Cancer
                6. Heart attack
                7. Stroke
                8. Back country ski or hiking adventures
                9. Ocean adventure
                10. Hunting Accident
                11. Homicide
                12. Boating accident

                I think I scared myself, I am no longer going to do anything that might have a risk associated with it... I am officially just sitting at home eating and drinking because I see no risk to that plan. I think I can get steaks delivered and hopefully a 40 of spiced rum a day can be sent... ah nothing to worry about... oh wait... nope I see no risk.
                Just think of how many more would die from each of these if any of these were as contagious as Covid BTW RTK, since you seem to be equating the deaths from these to COVID, if someone you know falls victime these, what are the risks to your health?
                Last edited by dmlfarmer; Jan 16, 2021, 21:54.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                  Only double time??? might work for some RNs but what about housekeeping, maintanence, and low paid aides? And most are women that have families at home that they will have to leave for 2 weeks at a time requiring child care. Maybe if you paid them the wages paid to oilfield camp workers which will be way more than double time you might get some takers. Oh, and I had no idea that retirement homes have that many empty beds that they could house not only residents but all staff needed as well. No wonder if costs so much for elderly care when so much space is not being used.
                  dml, please be reminded that $400B was spent.

                  For perspective, thats enough money to buy out every hotel in the country and house our elder residents and associated care workers in 5 star luxury with room service 3 times a day. Thats enough to pay every low wage care worker enough money so they dont have to work 2 jobs. Thats enough money for every person in home care to have their own personal caretaker, butler, chef and valet and doctor. Thats enough money to build 100 new hospitals in the country. Any announced? Should I go on?

                  You have a total failure of imagination of how resources can be put to work if needed.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                    That is a great question. I don’t know the answer. But the powers that be should be working out an answer.

                    If we’re locked down, may as well have the staff living in the homes with the older folks? Pay them WELL for the short term, to be isolated? Double time for them would be a smaller price to pay IMO than this ridiculous whole society shutdown for nothing.
                    It does seem that most homes are doing quite well in keeping the virus out. Kudos to the staff.
                    Back on Jan 6 a news item stated that in 2020, of the 65 deaths in care homes, 41 were from one single home in Regina. A very sad outcome. https://globalnews.ca/news/7558980/saskatchewan-covid19-long-term-care-deaths/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7558980/saskatchewan-covid19-long-term-care-deaths/

                    It cannot be overlooked that 58% of deaths in 2020 were suffered by those outside of a care home setting.
                    And all occurred while there were some or lots of restrictions. It can only be guessed how many there might have been with no restrictions, but it would be reasonable to think it would be higher.
                    The reports that there is virtually no flu detected indicates that covid is highly contagious.

                    Sk Health says there was 51,241 people over 80 in the province in 2020. The great majority of these people do not live in care homes.
                    So far of the 899 people over 80 that have had covid, 120 have died. That's 13.35%. And since death is a trailing statistic there are, sadly, likely more among the ill that will not make it.
                    It would not be proper to impress that statistic on the total population over 80 but still it would seem reasonable to think that anyone over 80 would need to be very careful if independent or be receiving the very best care if they are being looked after in a care home or outside of one.

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      nonsense , is it ? https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/media-are-accusing-a-republican-lawmaker-of-insurrection-for-quoting-nancy-pelosi/ https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/media-are-accusing-a-republican-lawmaker-of-insurrection-for-quoting-nancy-pelosi/
                      Welcome to the band.

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by farming101 View Post
                        It cannot be overlooked that 58% of deaths in 2020 were suffered by those outside of a care home setting..
                        101, that does not mesh with the recent covid stats. The govts own data shows this is overwhelmingly in care homes.

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                          Welcome to the band.
                          thats all you got , what a *** waste of time

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