Biden Good For Canada

[Jordy2323]

What do you think the market for oil will look like in 2030 and 2050?

Probably equal to, or more than today.
10% of Canada's electricity generation is natural gas.
Natural gas is the principal energy source for households in Alberta (72%), Saskatchewan (68%), Ontario (62%), and British Columbia (54%).
About 48 % of all U.S. homes use natural gas for heating

Oil isn't going anywhere.

[jazz]

Why dont you short oil chuck if you are so sure its done. Make more money than that solar array ever will.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I still maintian that the end goal of this obstructionism by US, regardless of party, is to break the will and the pocket book of Canadians, specifically the parts of Canada with resources. To force us to the negotiating table on their terms to join the US. Cut off our exports directly through actions such as this, and tarrifs, regulations, laws etc. Block our exports to the rest of the world and resource development in general through funding eco terrorists, useful idiots like Chuck, Native bands, etc.

Now they have a political leader who is closer aligned with the average left of center (by US standards, even most right Canadians are left) Canadian( even western), the separation pill would be easier to swallow than it would have been under Trump.

This new administration appears to be even more protectionist than Trump, expect more of this type of action against us.

But make no mistake, they need our resources, they especially need a strangle hold on our energy exports to have a virtual monopoly on the non OPEC/FSR energy to use as a negotiating tool against China etc.

We are not going to win this war by fighting every single losing battle with our biggest ( by far) trading partner, when they hold all the cards.


Edit to add, now that our governments, both federal and provincial have a direct financial stake in pipelines and energy industries, US interests have even more leverage over us, compared to leaving it in private hands.

[jazz]

We are not going to win this war by fighting every single losing battle with our biggest ( by far) trading partner, when they hold all the cards.

AF there is a school of thought that the US will need to do a defacto take over of Canada eventually. The US is going to add 75-100M more people in the next 20 yrs, mexico about the same and us maybe 15M.
Some of the fastest growing metro areas are in the US SW.

They may eventually need all the energy raw materials and even water and food that we can give them. eventually NA may become a self contained trading block.

On top of that northern shipping lanes and china and russia poking around up there. US wont stand for that long.

Of course this is lost on our leaders who keep wanting Globalism 2.0, so we keep getting taken to the cleaners instead of hammering out a real pact.

[fjlip]

Probably equal to, or more than today.
10% of Canada's electricity generation is natural gas.
Natural gas is the principal energy source for households in Alberta (72%), Saskatchewan (68%), Ontario (62%), and British Columbia (54%).
About 48 % of all U.S. homes use natural gas for heating

Oil isn't going anywhere.
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I guess Left/Liberals/Democrats/Carbon haters need NONE of those thing to live?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yes, Jazz, the other eventuality is that the US will not tolerate having a failed communist/socialist UN/Chinese vassal state, and major security risk sharing the longest undefended border in the world. Use that as a pretext to take over.
The Chinese 5G might be the catalyst, or the irresponsible immigration policies(I'm very much pro immigration, but it can be done responsibly).

[blackpowder]

Honestly?
Inviting the jobless, addicted step son to live under your roof?
No, not even the garage.
Deposit his AISH checks and set him up at a flea bag motel.
Sorry A5, your just not ruthless enough to understand where this going.

Now, will Koch be selling CA oil in 30 years? Maybe as a front for China.
Either way, if your not holding the condoms your holding the vaseline. And not one current politician will go hungry then.
Better hope our economy transitions from largely resource to something else by then. Has to use no energy though.
Hmmmmm

[Oliver88]

We would be much better off running the pipeline east and west, instead of only going south where they can discount our oil to what ever price they want to pay.

You must of missed the several years of virtue signalling and social licenses that was getting the Energy East pipeline approved. A guy by the name of Justin Trudeau was elected and due to opposition from Quebec this pipeline was cancelled.
He also cancelled Northern Gateway pipeline and Tech Resources. While he was at it he added Bill C-48 and C69 which virtually kills all new pipelines and bans shipping oil from Northern BC.

Democrats in Michigan and Biden will likely shut down Line 5 that supplies oil to Ontario. This will be interesting to see.

[blackpowder]

I really hope they do.
More from UAE i guess.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Honestly?
Inviting the jobless, addicted step son to live under your roof?
No, not even the garage.
Deposit his AISH checks and set him up at a flea bag motel.
Sorry A5, your just not ruthless enough to understand where this going.

Now, will Koch be selling CA oil in 30 years? Maybe as a front for China.
Either way, if your not holding the condoms your holding the vaseline. And not one current politician will go hungry then.
Better hope our economy transitions from largely resource to something else by then. Has to use no energy though.
Hmmmmm

Not adopting Canada wholesale, just picking off the productive parts. Probably installing puppet government over the basketcase that remains, to keep things from getting too far out of control.

[Guest]

Probably equal to, or more than today.
10% of Canada's electricity generation is natural gas.
Natural gas is the principal energy source for households in Alberta (72%), Saskatchewan (68%), Ontario (62%), and British Columbia (54%).
About 48 % of all U.S. homes use natural gas for heating

Oil isn't going anywhere.
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FFS Jordy , don’t hit them with details

[fjlip]

Waiting CC et al, you people use any of these pictured? And will you STOP using any of these because oil is the scourge of the earth/air? Even your "holy" disgustingly expensive windmills would not happen without OIL!

[blackpowder]

It's okay if they're using those products in a carbon neutral way.
See how easy that was?

[HITTGrapevine]

Waiting CC et al, you people use any of these pictured? And will you STOP using any of these because oil is the scourge of the earth/air? Even your "holy" disgustingly expensive windmills would not happen without OIL!

Forget fossil fuels.
Even wind power is dirty now.
https://www.thegwpf.com/gwpf-calls-on-sir-david-attenborough-to-save-red-listed-kittiwakes-from-giant-wind-turbine-project/
Enviro-maniacs are everywhere.
Just for shits and giggles, I'd love to see what David Attenborough's carbon footprint is.

[Old Cowzilla]

Oil trains still go past my place every day must be chilly out east. Trains, the fast,safe,and efficient way to move oil. Where's the sarcasm button on this thing ?