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    #11
    Originally posted by burnt View Post
    Oops, President Creepy Joe may, too, need to be pardoned -

    "Biden Violates His Own Mask EO by Failing to Wear Mask For Photo-Op

    Joe Biden violated his own executive order on the day it was signed when his family took part in a photo-op on federal property after removing their masks.

    Hours after Biden was inaugurated, he sent out a tweet announcing that an order had been signed mandating masks on federal property.

    “Wearing masks isn’t a partisan issue — it’s a patriotic act that can save countless lives. That’s why I signed an executive order today issuing a mask mandate on federal property. It’s time to mask up, America,” wrote Biden."
    ...........
    "When Fox News’s Peter Doocy asked White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki about the incident, Psaki dismissed the entire issue by claiming “We have bigger issues to worry about,” and asserting that it was acceptable because Biden was “celebrating.”"

    https://summit.news/2021/01/22/biden-violates-his-own-mask-eo-by-failing-to-wear-mask-for-photo-op/ https://summit.news/2021/01/22/biden-violates-his-own-mask-eo-by-failing-to-wear-mask-for-photo-op/
    Rules are for the peasants

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      #12
      President Trump shouldn't pardon Creepy Joe. Or the fake news media -

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        #13
        Originally posted by burnt View Post
        Would you like Tom and others to forgive you for for being a myopic, self-righteous, judgmental, hypocritical prick? Even though you remain steadfast in your unlovely state? Even though your attitude and words demonstrate that you are all those things of which you hatefully accuse others?

        All you need to do is acknowledge and ask...

        But knowing Tom, he has in all probability already forgiven you.
        Thump thump goes your hand on the bible. So funny. Any more adjectives you want to use to imply guilt and suppress and induce conformity to your cult.

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          #14
          Pardon president Trump for what? There has not been an impeachment and won't be if there is due process. Besides there would need to be 2/3 vote in the senate. There is ample evidence that leftist groups planned incitement on the 6th. My worry is that a trial would just be a show trial but I think the senate will just bury this one due to the huge chance they would just come out of it looking bad themselves.

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            #15
            Tom, do you have some inside knowledge that Trump has asked Biden to grant him a pardon?

            You do realize that it seems silly that to offer something that has not been requested leaves you in a position of showing a whole lot of arrogance. You may even look stupid when the grantee turns you down. Much like a certain football coach turned down a medal by Trump.

            Accepting a pardon signifies you are guilty. Do you really believe Trump would admit to doing anything criminal?

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              #16
              Funny that - Biden, purportedly the Great Healer, has a support base that wants to conduct a "9-11 style commission" to investigate the republicans.


              Tucker lays it out:



              The left is so far gone that it will not stop its murderous rampage until it has devoured most of its own.

              They have crossed the line into totalitarian, Marxist tyrants, stylized by aoc. Pelosi is clearly unhinged.

              These are not good times for the U.S.A., or any of the West.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ajl View Post
                Pardon president Trump for what? There has not been an impeachment and won't be if there is due process. Besides there would need to be 2/3 vote in the senate. There is ample evidence that leftist groups planned incitement on the 6th. My worry is that a trial would just be a show trial but I think the senate will just bury this one due to the huge chance they would just come out of it looking bad themselves.
                ajl you are wrong!
                Trump was impeached twice! He was impeached by the House for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress in 2019, and for Incitement of Insurrection this year.
                Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction to Congress in 1998
                Andrew Johnson was impeached in 1868 on 11 articles.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by checking View Post
                  Tom, do you have some inside knowledge that Trump has asked Biden to grant him a pardon?

                  You do realize that it seems silly that to offer something that has not been requested leaves you in a position of showing a whole lot of arrogance. You may even look stupid when the grantee turns you down. Much like a certain football coach turned down a medal by Trump.

                  Accepting a pardon signifies you are guilty. Do you really believe Trump would admit to doing anything criminal?
                  For Checking and BinLurking:

                  Our Western Civilization exists because we in the 'CommonWealth' [Starting with the Magna Carta] English speaking nations who have previously adopted and have used the following standards to build, generation upon generation prosperity and wealth by following the following Principals:

                  The Common Law
                  HISTORICAL Ethical Standards for Legal and Political Governance:
                  1. Do unto others as you would have done unto you,
                  And the Negative Golden Rule, which states;
                  Do not do unto others as you would not have others do unto you;
                  2. The two fundamental principles of common law:
                  *Do not infringe upon the Rights, Freedoms or Property of others, and
                  *Keep all contracts willingly, knowingly and intentionally.
                  3. These maxims in common law which include:
                  a) That for every wrong there is a remedy,
                  b) The end does not justify the means,
                  c) Fundamental principals cannot be set aside to meet the demands of convenience or to prevent apparent hardship in a particular case,
                  d) Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law,
                  e) Two wrongs do not make a right, and
                  f) One can enlarge the rights of the people; however they cannot be taken away without their informed consent.

                  Building on forgiveness and mercy, we as a civilization who choose to be creative and co-operative; while respecting personal property rights, and the autonomous freedom of personal responsibility and respect of the 'Will' and self-determination of humans their communities, and nations.

                  Whether or not Ex-President Trump, or President Biden broke the law is a matter for the 'Law' to judge: which a democratic congress in Washington D.C. has determined President Trump to be guilty of a crime worthy of Impeachment.

                  President Trump does have the right to defend himself under the US Constitution... which he did in the first case of impeachment which did not find President Trump 'guilty'.

                  House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is simply 'heaping the coals of division and conflict' by continuing the second impeachment trial. [Experts agree it is very unlikely the US Senate will have the 2/3rds majority needed to Impeach President Trump.]

                  I was simply stating that President Biden has the duty and obligation to stop this pointless exercise in futility and division... by telling the US Congress and the US Senate to 'stand down' on Impeachment.

                  President Biden called for healing and building trust between the political left and right in his inauguration speech.

                  If he truly wants reconciliation... President Biden needs to lead the way to rebuild trust and civil relationships.

                  Cheers! Bless You! Have a good day!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ajl View Post
                    Pardon president Trump for what? There has not been an impeachment and won't be if there is due process. Besides there would need to be 2/3 vote in the senate. There is ample evidence that leftist groups planned incitement on the 6th. My worry is that a trial would just be a show trial but I think the senate will just bury this one due to the huge chance they would just come out of it looking bad themselves.
                    ajl you are wrong! A U.S. president is considered "impeached" when indicted by the House of Representatives
                    Trump was impeached twice! He was impeached by the House for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress in 2019, and for Incitement of Insurrection this year.
                    Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction to Congress in 1998
                    Andrew Johnson was impeached on 11 articles.in 1868

                    Most think Richard Nixon was impeached but he wasn't. He resigned before the House could proceed with the 3 articles of impeachment that were proposed obstruction of justice, abuse of power and contempt of Congress


                    To date, no impeached president (Trump, Clinton, Johnson) or has ever been convicted of impeachment in the Senate however Trump has not yet been tried by the Senate for his second impeachment. It now appears the Senate will receive the impeachment documents from the House next monday.

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                      #20
                      Trump won’t be impeached since it would take 67 or more senators to do that. Even a Democrat senator Manchin has mentioned this is a ridiculous attempt, all for show.

                      Count on Trump or a Trump backed candidate to make a run for president again in 2024.

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