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    #31
    Something I've wondered about - doesn't screwing all those solar panels onto a roof compromise the roof? Not only the weight of them, but all those holes that are punched into the roof. What happens when you need new shingles?

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      #32
      Now is the time to start building new nuclear plants, the longer we wait the more it’s going to cost.

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        #33
        Storing electricity has always been expensive

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          #34
          In the case of hydro, Manitoba has a surplus and is next to Saskatchewan. BC also has a significant amount of hydro and depending what happens with Site C may have more.

          If you are wondering how Alberta will manage a large supply of intermittent renewables why not ask the AESO to explain their plan.
          Last edited by chuckChuck; Jan 26, 2021, 09:47.

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            #35
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            In the case of hydro, Manitoba has a surplus and is next to Saskatchewan. BC also has a significant amount of hydro and depending what happens with Site C may have more.

            If you are wondering how Alberta will manage a large supply of intermittent renewables why not ask the AESO to explain their plan.
            An even easier way to see into the future as to how we might manage a large supply of intermittent unreliables, is to look at Germany, Britain, Austraila, Caifornia etc. Looks like rationing, brown outs, black outs, high costs, variable costs to discourage usage at the times it is needed most etc. are in our future. Who needs block heaters, non frozen stock waterers, at night in the winter during cold spells anyways?

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              #36
              Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
              Something I've wondered about - doesn't screwing all those solar panels onto a roof compromise the roof? Not only the weight of them, but all those holes that are punched into the roof. What happens when you need new shingles?
              do you think anyone that installs green dream panels would look that far ahead, lol,lol,lol, haha , haha, lmao ???????
              Last edited by Guest; Jan 26, 2021, 13:19.

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                #37
                Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
                Something I've wondered about - doesn't screwing all those solar panels onto a roof compromise the roof? Not only the weight of them, but all those holes that are punched into the roof. What happens when you need new shingles?
                An issue for sure but somewhat solved with solar shingles. The tesla ones look like very nice metal shingles. No idea on cost or efficiency but does sound like a good idea.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                  An even easier way to see into the future as to how we might manage a large supply of intermittent unreliables, is to look at Germany, Britain, Austraila, Caifornia etc. Looks like rationing, brown outs, black outs, high costs, variable costs to discourage usage at the times it is needed most etc. are in our future. Who needs block heaters, non frozen stock waterers, at night in the winter during cold spells anyways?
                  A5 no doubt you are going to freeze in the dark! You better get yourself a backup generator and a wood stove, if you don't already have one. If it gets really bad you can gut one of your beasts, like Leaonardo in The Revenant, and crawl inside to escape the cold.

                  Again lots of broad sweeping generalizations from the everywhere man. Still haven't learned your lesson yet about broad sweeping generalizations without specific information yet?

                  Cheer up A5, you seem to be a bit negative about your province and its' future. If you are going to move stateside to escape the "commi environmentalists" in Alberta, don't choose North Dakota or Texas because they both have a ton of renewable electricity.

                  Germany, Britain, Australia, and California? Are they are all so similar in their grid system and their percentages of various types of renewable electricity and resources that they provide an example for the AESO? That's a stretch, to put it mildly. I am just not sure why the AESO isn't asking you for your sage advice to prevent the end of the civilized world in Alberta?

                  Why are you so afraid to look at the AESO's plan to integrate a larger amount of cheaper renewables and replace dirty coal with cleaner gas in your home province? Are you afraid of what you might find out? Looks like Alberta is going to ruin your argument against renewables and a lower carbon grid system.

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                    #39
                    Isn't cheaper renewables kind of like hiring a cheaper hired man who spends most of the day out behind the barn jerking off or doesn't come to work at all for a week?

                    Not really cheaper and a not there when you need him.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      A5 no doubt you are going to freeze in the dark! You better get yourself a backup generator and a wood stove, if you don't already have one. If it gets really bad you can gut one of your beasts, like Leaonardo in The Revenant, and crawl inside to escape the cold.

                      Again lots of broad sweeping generalizations from the everywhere man. Still haven't learned your lesson yet about broad sweeping generalizations without specific information yet?

                      Cheer up A5, you seem to be a bit negative about your province and its' future. If you are going to move stateside to escape the "commi environmentalists" in Alberta, don't choose North Dakota or Texas because they both have a ton of renewable electricity.

                      Germany, Britain, Australia, and California? Are they are all so similar in their grid system and their percentages of various types of renewable electricity and resources that they provide an example for the AESO? That's a stretch, to put it mildly. I am just not sure why the AESO isn't asking you for your sage advice to prevent the end of the civilized world in Alberta?

                      Why are you so afraid to look at the AESO's plan to integrate a larger amount of cheaper renewables and replace dirty coal with cleaner gas in your home province? Are you afraid of what you might find out? Looks like Alberta is going to ruin your argument against renewables and a lower carbon grid system.
                      So have you checked in to the results in the jurisdictions listed? I am not making this up. They have all surpassed the saturation point for their climate and location, and are facing the consequences. Rationing is real. Prices are out of control. Black outs and brown outs are happening. And they all intend to keep making it worse.
                      Fortunately, we are not there yet, but we would be wise to learn some lessons from them, before we repeat the same mistakes here.

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