Here we go again

[chuckChuck]

"By converting renewable electricity into an energy-rich gas that can easily be cooled and squeezed into a liquid fuel, MacFarlane's fuel cell effectively bottles sunshine and wind, turning them into a commodity that can be shipped anywhere in the world and converted back into electricity or hydrogen gas to power fuel cell vehicles. The gas bubbling out of the fuel cell is colorless, but environmentally, MacFarlane says, ammonia is as green as can be. "Liquid ammonia is liquid energy," he says. "It's the sustainable technology we need."

Its not just fertilizer. I guess you didn't read the science story from Australia? Here take a look.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...without-carbon https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...without-carbon

Alberta is already developing a hydrogen plan. Whether it will ever use renewable electricity for hydrogen or not is another question.

How we get to a low carbon energy system will depend on a lot of ifs. But to deny that we are heading that way is to stick your head in the desert sand.

[Hamloc]

"By converting renewable electricity into an energy-rich gas that can easily be cooled and squeezed into a liquid fuel, MacFarlane's fuel cell effectively bottles sunshine and wind, turning them into a commodity that can be shipped anywhere in the world and converted back into electricity or hydrogen gas to power fuel cell vehicles. The gas bubbling out of the fuel cell is colorless, but environmentally, MacFarlane says, ammonia is as green as can be. "Liquid ammonia is liquid energy," he says. "It's the sustainable technology we need."

Its not just fertilizer. I guess you didn't read the science story from Australia? Here take a look.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...without-carbon https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...without-carbon

Alberta is already developing a hydrogen plan. Whether it will ever use renewable electricity for hydrogen or not is another question.

How we get to a low carbon energy system will depend on a lot of ifs. But to deny that we are heading that way is to stick your head in the desert sand.

What I find amusing coming from a person who judging by your responses doesn’t even read my posts that you would be surprised I didn’t read the article. As an example no response on the need of water in the desert for hydrogen production. If something interests me I will read it, otherwise I don’t. And there is certainly no doubt that governments are going to spend billions on green energy subsidization but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it.

[fjlip]

If Canada did NO GREEN SH*T we would all be money ahead, and the WORLD would NOT notice our Non- Compliance. We are SFA of the problem...IF there even is a problem. It's a solution looking for a problem, in the minds of the WEAK/SLOW/LEFTIST!

[TOM4CWB]

If Canada did NO GREEN SH*T we would all be money ahead, and the WORLD would NOT notice our Non- Compliance. We are SFA of the problem...IF there even is a problem. It's a solution looking for a problem, in the minds of the WEAK/SLOW/LEFTIST!

New World Order:

Social License required to sell: oil, grain, meat, vegetables, Fertilizer, plastic, Natural gas, coal, food products, potatoes, sugar, lumber, paper.

Since we export 70% of what we produce in Alberta... we do need the Social License to survive.

Stop.

Cheers

[chuckChuck]

What I find amusing coming from a person who judging by your responses doesn’t even read my posts that you would be surprised I didn’t read the article. As an example no response on the need of water in the desert for hydrogen production. If something interests me I will read it, otherwise I don’t. And there is certainly no doubt that governments are going to spend billions on green energy subsidization but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it.

Lots of water available in California and in the south west from the Pacific Ocean.

And on the research that was done in Australia to produce ammonia from renewables? No comment? All we hear is crickets only because you have already made up your mind and are closed to new ideas and innovation.

Just like governments are currently spending billions on subsidizing the oil and gas industries! Again all we hear is crickets!

As long as the subsidies, support and incentives go to you or the industries you support, then subsidies are no problem and you seem to agree with them? Correct?

[shortbox]

New World Order:

Social License required to sell: oil, grain, meat, vegetables, Fertilizer, plastic, Natural gas, coal, food products, potatoes, sugar, lumber, paper.

Since we export 70% of what we produce in Alberta... we do need the Social License to survive.

Stop.

Cheers

Is this the same social license that Notley said Alberta needed to export oil?

[Hamloc]

Lots of water available in California and in the south west from the Pacific Ocean.

And on the research that was done in Australia to produce ammonia from renewables? No comment? All we hear is crickets only because you have already made up your mind and are closed to new ideas and innovation.

Just like governments are currently spending billions on subsidizing the oil and gas industries! Again all we hear is crickets!

As long as the subsidies, support and incentives go to you or the industries you support, then
subsidiess are no problem and you seem to agree with them? Correct?

Chuck2 all this arrogance and yet you don't realize anhydrous ammonia is purified ammonia, NH3. The government of Canada wants nitrogen fertilizer use and production curtailed and you are promoting it lol!

Climate change proponents are predicting drought and fresh water shortages and yet you say there is lots of water.

As for government subsidies not in favor of them going to oil companies or solar companies!

[chuckChuck]

"MacFarlane's fuel cell effectively bottles sunshine and wind, turning them into a commodity that can be shipped anywhere in the world and converted back into electricity or hydrogen gas to power fuel cell vehicles. The gas bubbling out of the fuel cell is colorless, but environmentally, MacFarlane says, ammonia is as green as can be. "Liquid ammonia is liquid energy," he says. "It's the sustainable technology we need."

[Guest]

and the cow jumped over the moon

[blackpowder]

Sorry, I'm just as guilty as anybody. Saw this on FB and thought it was funny.
And about as useful I suppose as crippling the country today while dreaming of something at least 30 years away, if we start right now.