How Ottawa utterly botched Canada's COVID vaccine acquisition

[Guest]

Case Canada is not asking for 3rd world supplies, That is BS! I will explain it to you again seeing as you must not have understood it the last time I posted it.

Covax is a WHO initiatives which about 145 countries joined. Wealthy countries fund a pool of vaccines which are distributed 50% to themselves and 50% cost free to third world countries. The reason contributing countries get 50% is the incentive for them to take part in the program. Otherwise most countries would do all their own people first before contributing to donations to third world. Canada bought into the program last September with a $544 million dollar committment to Covax. The target of the program is to fund 20% of all participating nations requirements for vaccine.

The first distribution has just been announced which provides member nations who request to be in the first round of distribution with enough vaccines for 3.3% of their population. Canada has accepted their allotment. So did New Zealand, a first world country with very few cases. So did Saudi Arabia and Qatar, both countries which certainly can afford their own vaccines. Not all of the 145 countries, including many first world nations, are getting vaccines in the first round. [I"]Participants that do not appear in the list below have either exercised their rights to opt-out, have not submitted vaccine requests, or have not yet been allocated doses".[/I] according to the Covax distribution list.

Here you all are screaming that Canada is not getting vaccines, and at the same time you are whining about Canada accepting vaccines it has already purchased through the Covax program? JC do at least minimal research before spewing your conspiracy theories! Check out sites about the Covax program online there are plenty that explain it.

And I will even provide the following link to the Feb 3 Covax Distribution List from the WHO to show all the countries alloted vaccines in this first round. Feel free to contact Trudeau if you feel Canada should not accept their Covax allotment that they have bought and paid. I am sure he would love to hear from you.

https://www.gavi.org/sites/default/f...n-Forecast.pdf

read post #12, something is bulshit because you say it is ?
I'm just happy the end of this liberal nightmare is nearly here

[dmlfarmer]

read post #12, something is bulshit because you say it is ?

Did. Take note of these paragraphs in the post which you refer too. Just what I explained above

"Canada is one of the leading donors to COVAX, a new international partnership under the World Health Organization created last year to help deliver billions of expensive vaccine doses to poor countries that can’t afford vaccinations.

In return, donor countries are allowed to receive a small percentage of vaccines for their own use, but the Trudeau Liberals have been under fire from their political opponents for doing that as Canada faces shortfalls in doses from two major international biotech firms, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna."

So Canada is getting what it has paid for and complaints like yours is all political posturing! I can just imagine the complaints on here if he turned down Canada's allotment and donated all to the third world given the complaints about supply shortages of vaccines in Canada now!

[shtferbrains]

Canada is one of the largest donars to COVAX.

Nothing happens in much of Africa without convenience payments to whoever rules including local malitia.

I'm sure they will require cash to ensure local distribution etc.

But PMJT understands how that all works from his tour looking for votes for the UN appointment. The more we give the more comes back to his own fund.

Money makes the world go around.

[fjlip]

Sick of Lieberals...take e'm to the train!

[rumrocks]

Sick of Lieberals...take e'm to the train!


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I think I see Chrystia Freeland on the throttle and the Kielburger brothers shoveling coal, but I could be wrong.

[Hamloc]

You actually think a delay in vaccine shipments to Canada is the smoking gun? Every country in the world is facing a shortage of vaccines. Even citizens in the countries which are leading in vaccination rates are complaining exactly the same as in Canada. Want proof people around the world as just as upset as Canadians, check out these sites:
https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccine-supply-is-causing-an-eu-crisis-so-whats-being-done-to-speed-up-production-154153 https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccine-supply-is-causing-an-eu-crisis-so-whats-being-done-to-speed-up-production-154153
https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/world/german-minister-sees-covid-19-vaccine-shortage-well-into-april-545953/ https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/world/german-minister-sees-covid-19-vaccine-shortage-well-into-april-545953/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/covid-vaccines-rollout-disarray-u-s-abroad-n1256144 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/covid-vaccines-rollout-disarray-u-s-abroad-n1256144
https://www.foxnews.com/health/states-report-vaccine-shortages-and-cancel-appointments https://www.foxnews.com/health/states-report-vaccine-shortages-and-cancel-appointments
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/27/world/covid-19-coronavirus https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/27/world/covid-19-coronavirus

Simple question did you read the National Post article?

[Guest]

Apparently not

[dmlfarmer]

Simple question did you read the National Post article?

Good morning Hamloc. I do not sit on the computer 24 hours a day as Case must by insinuating that because I did not answer your question within 15 minutesy he can assume I did not read the article.

In fact I did read it. And no where does it say that people in other countries are satisfied with the rollout of vaccines in their own countries which was the initial point I made. No matter how fast of a rollout occurs there will be whining that it is not fast enough in every country. And that is to be expected when production simply cannot meet demand. I provided links to lots of articles from US, Europe, and the UK giving the same complaints in those countries that the National Post is doing to Canada.

The second point I made is that Canada is not stealing vaccines from 3rd world countries as is being argued by those with a political axe to grind. Canada as a participant in Covax is allocated a percentage of vaccines through the Covax program just as every other Covax participating country is. So Canada is accepting its share now since production problems have decreased the expected deliveries to Canada. New Zealand has been alloted Covax vaccines in the first distribution too, even though the disease pressure in that country is likely lower than anywhere else in the world and they have not even received registration for using any type of vaccine in their country.

If we could get the politics out of Covid and vaccines we would be much better off. Trudeau has done enough actual stupid s**t that he should not be PM without making up stuff. All such BS does is empower those who show you do not know what you are talking about so why should anyone believe anything you are saying.

[Guest]

nothing to do with your screen time
"apparently not" means if you did read hamloc's post , you didn't get anything out of it ?
also, lieberals all want to get politics and Covid/vaccines separated, as you suggest, now since his colossal **** up

[Guest]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-this-is-the-worst-canadian-government-ever-can-there-be-any-question https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-this-is-the-worst-canadian-government-ever-can-there-be-any-question

[dmlfarmer]

nothing to do with your screen time
"apparently not" means if you did read hamloc's post , you didn't get anything out of it ?
also, lieberals all want to get politics and Covid/vaccines separated, as you suggest, now since his colossal **** up

Believe what ever you want to believe. I could care less of what you think of me or your claims to know what I am thinking by whether or not I respond. I know I will never change your or a number of other posters biases about anything. I am only concerned with those on the list who may not take the time to fact check something that you claim to be fact such as Canada is taking vaccines from the third world that they do not deserve when in fact they have bought and paid for those vaccines through the same WHO Covax program that 144 other countries are also getting vaccines from.

[Guest]

i certainly don't care what you think of me either
i know i won't change your mind either
i just can't let hypocrisy go unchecked or bullshit either
if you farm , i know you don't operate like a liberal or you wouldn't be in business

[Sodbuster]

Maybe Canada needs to donate a few more billion to Covax so we can secure more vaccines for Canada.

[Hamloc]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-this-is-the-worst-canadian-government-ever-can-there-be-any-question https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-this-is-the-worst-canadian-government-ever-can-there-be-any-question

Caseih I did read this article and yes I agree with Rex 100% but the problem is 32% of Canadians according to the latest polling still support the Liberals! As I have said before I cannot understand how a person with a functioning brain that can do rudimentary math can support this Prime Minister but it is supposedly a free country and they have every right to support whichever party they prefer. The only positive I find is that those on the left can no longer tell me the Stephen Harper added the most debt of any Prime Minister, by the time Justin Trudeau is done he will have more than doubled Canada’s deficit and added more than 4 times the debt Stephen Harper did! Fml!

[Guest]

The media has “woke” that 32% will be dropping fast
Hopefully it’s the whole Lieberal party under the bus and not just numbnuts