A cold sunday morning question

[shtferbrains]

But solar is an energy source that can charge batteries and make hydrogen.

Really simple?
All you have to do is figure out how to get that reformer that nobody ever shuts down because it takes a week to get tuned in again to run on 4 hr cycles.

You could run it on gas from one well for the 20hrs and use about 4000 acres of solar panels to run the other 4 hrs but that won't go if you don't get your subsidy because you used the gas.

Not going to happen without the govenment support.

[FarmJunkie]

The killer with dams is the ROI.....AND the fact that MB has extra power to sell that nobody wants to pay much for. MB hydro is virtually bankrupt because u guessed it. Government mismanagement. Paying off the Indian bands and environmentalists costs money. I agree with the whole concept but I think by the time they are paid for u have to start over again fixing.

[Old Cowzilla]

Dozens of people hired to look after really dumb programs , buy your old fridge or water heater, or pay to insulate your house. I tried taking those coupons to a hardware store to get that discount on new energy saving lightbulbs. They gave me a funny look and said what the heck you want us to do with those! Manitoba Hydro just got too top heavy.

[foragefarmer]

Austrian and Junkie

And the 1.5 billion Kenney invested, or the 100,000 orphan wells left behind. Not to mention the countless oil and gas companies who walked away after going bankrupt.


Yes Manitoba Hydro has a huge debt, but those dams are going to be around for a long time, with a large one coming on board in a couple of years. I would bet with the movement going on the USA with Biden, Manitoba Hydro has a better chance of recouping their loses than oil does at the present time.

[woodland]

All the plants around here are humming. Thank goodness for that, Nat gas for heat, and good diesel in the tractor to get the cow chow out when it’s -36 out.

At least the sun is out with just a light breeze 🍀

Of all the “renewable power” out there nothing is more reliable than hydro which even comes with its own “battery” built into it. The Hoover dam is 86 years old and still functional. Not even these coal plants can match that.

[fjlip]

Well then SCREW the bird grinders money pits and invest in RELIABLE, not sh*t green color!

[SASKFARMER]

Hydrogen Optimized

Cummins

Liquid Air.

Yes, companies are working on a solution.

But where will it be 10 or 20 years out.

The oil will still be needed for at least another 80 years.

[jazz]

No greenfield hydro dam will ever be built in Canada again so forget that.

Site C will be the last and its more than double its original cost. NFLD is bankrupt due to hydro.

We could restart an awesome hydro 2.0 economy here with the americans support but they will want the water AND power this time.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

AB5, Your scenario really illustrates , without a doubt ,what critical thinkers are dealing with everywhere
The only way it hits home is when it happens to them personally , sometimes even that doesn’t work

And just to prove your point, in response to my post regarding the preposterously impossible scale and expense of using storage for anything practical, the resident non-critical thinker ( or is that critical non-thinker?) makes not one, but 4 posts touting batteries and storage as the solution.
It would be funny, except our leaders are people just like him.

[burnt]

just thinking...if everyone had an electric car and tractor that the environmentalists wanted...would the power grid be able to charge all the equipment and vehicles and heat everyone's homes on a minus 35 day with wind and solar...

Where would the environmentalists be on a minus 30 day with an electric vehicle society???

No cut and paste garbage please , just a discussion on how this could be justified...

And for fun add in a 50kmh wind...

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[AlbertaFarmer5]

No greenfield hydro dam will ever be built in Canada again so forget that.

Site C will be the last and its more than double its original cost. NFLD is bankrupt due to hydro.

We could restart an awesome hydro 2.0 economy here with the americans support but they will want the water AND power this time.

While Chuck and Forage keep touting hydro as a renewable solution ( which we all agree with), the NFU keeps fighting against hydro. https://www.nfu.ca/national-farmers-union-calls-on-bc-agriculture-minister-to-stop-site-c/ https://www.nfu.ca/national-farmers-union-calls-on-bc-agriculture-minister-to-stop-site-c/
Are these posters so far out in left field that even the communist organization they represent don't
invite them to the meetings anymore? How can they be so far out of touch with their own fellow NFU members?

[Guest]

Hey burnt you got two likes from the circle jerk club. Do your homework

https://factcheck.afp.com/no-not-petrol-generator-charging-electric-car