Sales reporting

[wmoebis]

It is okay in Canada to have 40 gas stations in a 10 mile stretch and all charging $1.09/litre because you know they don't talk. The competition bureau failed in that. Hard not to feel empowered when no one has taken a run at corporate entities here like they have in the USA. And to make sure the American people never forget - they make a movie out of it.

Just fn once i'd like a grain company announce that they sold wheat to China - canola to China - peas to China...

Remember when we used to get reports of multi bushel sales to countries over multi year sales.

[LWeber]

Remember when we used to get reports of multi bushel sales to countries over multi year sales.

enlighten me please

[wmoebis]

enlighten me please

I just remember when the CWB used to make multi year contracts for sales over years and we would hear about it in papers and on radio. Not saying that was right just remember the reports that said Canada made sales. Now seems we never hear of sales.

[bucket]

I just remember when the CWB used to make multi year contracts for sales over years and we would hear about it in papers and on radio. Not saying that was right just remember the reports that said Canada made sales. Now seems we never hear of sales.

And were the sales also at the buyers (china) call and price?

[shtferbrains]

You mean to the USSR on the never never plan?

Or to Syria or Iraq with kickbacks to the dictators?

Yea, I remember those.

[wmoebis]

And were the sales also at the buyers (china) call and price?

I don't recall and we can't even look it up because all the records got destroyed.

[shortbox]

I don't recall and we can't even look it up because all the records got destroyed.

Of course!

[foragefarmer]

And were the sales also at the buyers (china) call and price?

And what's the difference if you substitute (China) with MNP, P&H, Cargill, Richardson, etc etc in todays grain markets you sell to ?


Shortbox

Ritz Cracker made sure those records were destroyed when he gave the CWB to the Saudi's. What did you get from that deal?

[blackpowder]

Owned it will be paid.

This thread has turned into the usual vinegar so I'll add this. Sometimes attitudes like yours are part of the problem. The percentage of rented land is not going away soon and the credits go with title. Another program that becomes useless or a gift to non farmers.
On a similar note they postponed responsible grain till fall. Big f n surprise.

[LWeber]

This thread has turned into the usual vinegar so I'll add this. Sometimes attitudes like yours are part of the problem. The percentage of rented land is not going away soon and the credits go with title. Another program that becomes useless or a gift to non farmers.
On a similar note they postponed responsible grain till fall. Big f n surprise.

bump

you cant let this die - or it will...

[farming101]

Without knowing how much grain has been locked up for export there is no food security.
That as much as anything is what was behind the start of sales reporting in the US.
Second was that the real value of that food stock was not accounted for and it was gone.

It is not the job of the importer to put a real value on what they want to import. They just want to get it as cheap as the can for as long as they need to.
So, it is the job of the exporting entity to put a value on that product for export. Otherwise they will not have a domestic industry for long or it will be a very sick one.
It's just basic accounting. You cannot account for what you don't count in the first place. And the best time to start counting is when it is signed up to go.

[TOM4CWB]

Does anyone (Tom) have the exact wording of the “sales reporting resolution”?

Found the ASG AGM Resolution that passed with over 90% in favour:

Resolution #3 – Compiled Weekly Export Sales Report
Background: The U.S. Department of Agriculture mandates the grain buying corporations to
report their grain sales over a certain set minimum tonnage to be reported daily and compiled
weekly. The structure of this system in the USA allows for a transparent marketplace so that
farmers have the ability to better gauge market conditions and execute their grain marketing
decisions by being more informed and therefore giving them a more strategic advantage.
WHEREAS, we as seed growers are directly affected by the current marketing disadvantage in
Canada, because it does not allow us the opportunity to be more proactive towards planning
our next years seed production based on current global exports;
WHEREAS, our pedigreed seed pricing is all relative to the commercial market of grain, so if the
commercial producers can gain the advantage of having the export data on a daily basis versus
every 6 weeks, the output of greater commercial grain profits will directly reflect positively on
our pedigreed seed business;
WHEREAS, several of the Saskatchewan Grain Councils have already put forward a resolution at
their 2021 AGM’s with respect to this requirement of more transparent and timely reporting of
crop exports in Canada. Alberta Seed Growers supporting and lobbying for this movement will
add value to our crop business and benefit all Pedigreed Seed Growers across Canada;
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that it be mandated for Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada and the
Canada Grains Council to establish a compiled weekly export sales report from all grain buying
commodity companies that must provide data on the amount of their export grain sales, and
this information be made public data on a more frequent basis every day.
Moved by: Stephen Sendziak Seconded by: Don Sendziak Passed Feb 2021

There was a small revision adding imports as well that because of the Virtual Meeting format was not in this original Resolution.

Thanks,
Tom4cwb