Too much cheap food ....

[jamesb]

Garbage article. It is things like this that adds to the discussion about what do as farmers to speak our side of the discussion. Speaking as a farmer in western Canada, the biodiversity of the crops grown and the proliferation of wildlife is far greater now than when the land was first broken for cultivation. Moose and deer populations are far larger in the cultivated land now than in the past. You ask any of the old-timer's, they didn't see the game we see today. A kid we never saw geese other than in the spring and fall , they are very common today. We never used to see ravens in the south much. They are common now. My dad said we never used to have racoons around, very common now. In North America most farms 50 years ago had livestock and today mixed farms have mostly disappeared. That being said I cant remember who told a story years ago at university. The gist of it was that eventually in places like Africa the last of the wild game will go into the cook pot because of the inability to feed themselves. It is so sad really that these people so far from the land can have such a effect on policy from their opinion on things they don't have clue about.
On issue that does come up that we as farmers have to decide what we want to react to this incursion on our business. The discussion of "social license " and "code of practice" triggers so many in the ag community. Where do we as farmers go? I sure can see why many farmers are angered by the attempt to appease the tree huggers and the social and enviro activists. That being said, the question remains, What do we do ? I know many of you have a real dislike of the commodity groups and take there money out. I fully support your right to do so. Being able to vote with your levy dollars is very important. I would ask who do want to champion your farm if not the commodity groups? APAS ? NFU (I hope not) ? How about the World council of Churches ? Those guys have a strong opinion about how you should farm.

[Sheepwheat]

I think we need to fight the fight a person at a time. Invite people to your farms, reply to off base social media posts with kindness, facts, and class.

Just this very morning, my wife responded to a social media post about one of our products and some lady in BC was concerned about ppl eating lamb. So my wife worked hard to win her over, to be truthful and helpful.

Cases like that give me hope. We need to do this right, not with anger or looking down our noses which is not always easy when frustrated...

[jazz]

Trudeau has already stated that we must reduce fertility by 30% .... the wheels are in motion .

That is the agenda right there.

Humans largest advances in our history all had to do with harnessing more dense and easily available forms of energy - fire, meat, agriculture, fossil fuels, and the elite want to reverse that.

They just created a generation of useless eaters that are ready to sit in their apartments and wait for UBI. Will be easy now to remove their entire bloodlines from the planet.

But why? what is the real agenda behind population reduction. The elite dont care, they dont live where the rest of us do. Unless there is something coming down the line that will be a radical change for us and not everyone will get to participate like life extension tech.

[shtferbrains]

See the message that if we totaly removed cattle it would solve 60% of the climate change problems.
Seems to be the new popular "If you say it loud enough and long enough it has to be true".
The beef market is in enough trouble with packer concetration without any other bad news BS chipping away at it.

[furrowtickler]

[Oliver88]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/shift-to-plant-based-diets-is-key-to-saving-world-s-wildlife-report-1.5296018

The pressure is on livestock as well ...

But the beef industry has a sustainability program.......

[AlbertaFarmer5]

But the beef industry has a sustainability program.......

Under the mistaken assumption that social license actually exists. Or that eco terrorists can be negotiated with or placated.

[Sheepwheat]

Y’all should watch a show on Amazon prime. It’s called “kill it cut it use it”.

Urban types, some that are over the top kind of freaky urban types, are taken to slaughter houses etc. To watch animals get killed. Then they see what items the animals are made into. Leather, soaps, hairbrushes, tennis rackets and so on. It’s very interesting to me, an animal farmer.

Nearly everyone really struggles with the killing, (who relishes in watching anything die?), but the show is well done and they almost all end up appreciating animal agriculture in the end, when they see the products that are created using animals.

If those types on there can get through it, for sure the average consumer can be reached.

The killing isn’t fun to watch. They actually show the killing and the bleeding and the thrashing and twitching, amazingly.

Anyhow. I thought over all it was a good show. And importantly proof that education is not pointless.

[jazz]

Y’all should watch a show on Amazon prime. It’s called “kill it cut it use it”.

Sheep, imo there is no educating that group. That lady from BC will be on the opposite side soon. if she was waivering now, she will eventually fall fully in line with the woke left. Not sure you have a long term customer there.

In any case, every farmer should be reviewing their business plans because woke ag is the next challenge for us. We better start learning how to survive on a lot less inputs and a whole lot more regulation.

[Sheepwheat]

Sheep, imo there is no educating that group. That lady from BC will be on the opposite side soon. if she was waivering now, she will eventually fall fully in line with the woke left. Not sure you have a long term customer there.

In any case, every farmer should be reviewing their business plans because woke ag is the next challenge for us. We better start learning how to survive on a lot less inputs and a whole lot more regulation.

It is not about whether she’s a customer or not. I could care less. (Though we did get an order from BC). All I want is to share the truth about farming with her. All of us in ag should, no, we MUST, be willing to educate the long removed from ag types. So long as they aren’t militant, they are willing to listen, if we aren’t screwing up by being condescending. We need to first understand they have no farm connection. None. We need to know where they’re coming from.

[WiltonRanch]

That is the agenda right there.

Humans largest advances in our history all had to do with harnessing more dense and easily available forms of energy - fire, meat, agriculture, fossil fuels, and the elite want to reverse that.

They just created a generation of useless eaters that are ready to sit in their apartments and wait for UBI. Will be easy now to remove their entire bloodlines from the planet.

But why? what is the real agenda behind population reduction. The elite dont care, they dont live where the rest of us do. Unless there is something coming down the line that will be a radical change for us and not everyone will get to participate like life extension tech.

World population growth is a slowly sinking ship, exasperated in western nations by a generation afraid to plant their seed for fear of a host of issues like climate change etc. Personally it’s great they don’t reproduce. The expectation the covid would spur a baby boom has been wrong. If the talking headless know it all’s want to tackle population go to India or Africa. Those are the only places where population is still growing.

[Sheepwheat]

World population growth is a slowly sinking ship, exasperated in western nations by a generation afraid to plant their seed for fear of a host of issues like climate change etc. Personally it’s great they don’t reproduce. The expectation the covid would spur a baby boom has been wrong. If the talking headless know it all’s want to tackle population go to India or Africa. Those are the only places where population is still growing.

I read an article once that postulated that conservatives, real conservatives, the ones that have several kids and raise their kids to have common sense, will continue to outbreed, and therefore outnumber the leftists who are worried having more than one little Johnny is going to kill the planet.

It kind of makes sense. Right wingers generally have more kids. Could happen sometime I guess?