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    #37
    Why would the world starve to death if 100 gms of beans provides 22 grams protein, 63 grams of carbs, polyunsaturated healthy fats while the damage done worldwide to produce beef gives 26 grams per 100 gms4, no carbs, and saturated fat, 5 times the sodium, 31% higher risk of death, 50% more likely to have macular degeneration, 28% more likely to have colon cancer, and you don't have to kill it. Just eat the beans.

    Most beef worldwide is produced in feedlots, not picturesque open prairie scenes.

    But by all means don't let any of the realities of beef production and nutritional challenges interfere with your delusions of why people are just "misinformed by the plot against farmers" turning more and more to alternative products. Because that is what good managers do, ignore 2 corners of a SWOT analysis.

    Plants based protein markets are expected to grow 14% per year and will be over 35 billion by 2024. Already 40% of Canadians consider themselves flexitarians, and that is not going down. The big winner is farmers who grow higher protein ingredients, the loser is animal protein farmers who think all this will "pass". As products become more tasty, affordable, meat substitution partially by plant - 50/50 meats, and don't carry the guilt of animal slaughter, the trend will be only 1 way.

    Meat contributes to 8 billion tonnes of CO2 per year, so it is an easy target because there is little to no pushback by the industry. You'll just complain on Agriville and call people uninformed.

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      #38
      Originally posted by tweety View Post
      Why would the world starve to death if 100 gms of beans provides 22 grams protein, 63 grams of carbs, polyunsaturated healthy fats while the damage done worldwide to produce beef gives 26 grams per 100 gms4, no carbs, and saturated fat, 5 times the sodium, 31% higher risk of death, 50% more likely to have macular degeneration, 28% more likely to have colon cancer, and you don't have to kill it. Just eat the beans.

      Most beef worldwide is produced in feedlots, not picturesque open prairie scenes.

      But by all means don't let any of the realities of beef production and nutritional challenges interfere with your delusions of why people are just "misinformed by the plot against farmers" turning more and more to alternative products. Because that is what good managers do, ignore 2 corners of a SWOT analysis.

      Plants based protein markets are expected to grow 14% per year and will be over 35 billion by 2024. Already 40% of Canadians consider themselves flexitarians, and that is not going down. The big winner is farmers who grow higher protein ingredients, the loser is animal protein farmers who think all this will "pass". As products become more tasty, affordable, meat substitution partially by plant - 50/50 meats, and don't carry the guilt of animal slaughter, the trend will be only 1 way.

      Meat contributes to 8 billion tonnes of CO2 per year, so it is an easy target because there is little to no pushback by the industry. You'll just complain on Agriville and call people uninformed.
      Being a livestock producer I see the writing on the wall but at the same time I do not see the supply of beef growing neither outside of feedlots feeding to higher carcass weights. Any drop in consumption is matched by reductions in herd numbers here anyway. Throw out methane emissions and that for a minute, beef will become a luxury item for many. I do take issue with non livestock producers here who have a sanctimonious attitude towards livestock. It’s no better than some livestock producers attitudes towards grain producers. First the radicals will take down livestock and then the grain growers. Then we’ll see how smart you sound.

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        #39
        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
        And your culled ewes end up as, or do you leave them on the farm to die of old age?

        Sheep, sounds like you really don't know very much about marketing the more you post.
        You’re a persnickety bitch aren’t you.

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          #40
          You can have the beans twity and I'll take the steak.

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            #41
            Originally posted by HITTG****vine View Post
            Tear down schools and universities? That's a great idea.
            And while were at it, let's burn all the books that don't conform to our worldview as well.
            That worked really well in Nazi Germany.
            Give your head a shake.

            For example:

            Christopher F. Rufo
            ⚔️
            @realchrisrufo
            ·
            21h
            SCOOP: A Philadelphia elementary school forced fifth-grade students to celebrate "black communism" and simulate a Black Power rally to "free Angela Davis" from prison.

            I've obtained exclusive whistleblower documents and photographs from the school. Here's the story.
            🧵

            Christopher F. Rufo
            Crossed swords
            @realchrisrufo
            Replying to
            @realchrisrufo
            Last year, a fifth-grade teacher at the William D. Kelley School designed a social-studies curriculum to celebrate the political radical Angela Davis, praising the "black communist" for her fight against "inequality" and telling students to "define communist" in favorable terms.

            https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1359948781253402626 https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1359948781253402626

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              #42
              Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
              You can have the beans twity and I'll take the steak.
              What kind of beans are we talking about here. We are supposed to eat soybeans? because thats the only beans produced in large enough quantities to feed the population.

              Just what we need, more of our woke beta male population chowing down on soy.

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                #43
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                What kind of beans are we talking about here. We are supposed to eat soybeans? because thats the only beans produced in large enough quantities to feed the population.

                Just what we need, more of our woke beta male population chowing down on soy.
                So, are the woke crowd expected to suddenly embrace highly processed GMO beans, "soaked" in roundup, and full of hormones as a more healthy and/or ethical alternative to beef?
                The marketing departments are going to be having fun selling this after spending decades doing the opposite.
                But as Chuck and his favorite politicians shows us everyday, Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
                Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Feb 12, 2021, 13:03.

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by tweety View Post
                  Why would the world starve to death if 100 gms of beans provides 22 grams protein, 63 grams of carbs, polyunsaturated healthy fats while the damage done worldwide to produce beef gives 26 grams per 100 gms4, no carbs, and saturated fat, 5 times the sodium, 31% higher risk of death, 50% more likely to have macular degeneration, 28% more likely to have colon cancer, and you don't have to kill it. Just eat the beans.

                  Most beef worldwide is produced in feedlots, not picturesque open prairie scenes.

                  But by all means don't let any of the realities of beef production and nutritional challenges interfere with your delusions of why people are just "misinformed by the plot against farmers" turning more and more to alternative products. Because that is what good managers do, ignore 2 corners of a SWOT analysis.

                  Plants based protein markets are expected to grow 14% per year and will be over 35 billion by 2024. Already 40% of Canadians consider themselves flexitarians, and that is not going down. The big winner is farmers who grow higher protein ingredients, the loser is animal protein farmers who think all this will "pass". As products become more tasty, affordable, meat substitution partially by plant - 50/50 meats, and don't carry the guilt of animal slaughter, the trend will be only 1 way.

                  Meat contributes to 8 billion tonnes of CO2 per year, so it is an easy target because there is little to no pushback by the industry. You'll just complain on Agriville and call people uninformed.
                  How dare you take the seeds from a crop and disrupt the natural pathway of a plants life cycle of returning the seeds to the soil to reproduce again? You are in effect, killing the plants. Are plants not a living thing, as are animals?

                  See how far this can be taken? This is how scary the world is becoming. People are too comfortable with their food supply. I guarantee you if shit really hit the fan, and food really became scarce, that would be the end of all this cumbya bullshit. People would eat what you put in front of them, and quit complaining that you killed Mabel the cow to keep them alive.

                  And before you get all huffy and say that I am just another cattle farmer that is out of touch with the people...not a cow on the place. But maybe soon, as the whack jobs take over and force everyone to eat dog food, because they think it is a great idea. I will eat beef, thank you very much.

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                    #45
                    Me too
                    **** em they can eat whatever kinda shit they want
                    Just fu ck en leave me alone

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                      #46
                      Originally posted by tweety View Post
                      Why would the world starve to death if 100 gms of beans provides 22 grams protein, 63 grams of carbs, polyunsaturated healthy fats while the damage done worldwide to produce beef gives 26 grams per 100 gms4, no carbs, and saturated fat, 5 times the sodium, 31% higher risk of death, 50% more likely to have macular degeneration, 28% more likely to have colon cancer, and you don't have to kill it. Just eat the beans.

                      Most beef worldwide is produced in feedlots, not picturesque open prairie scenes.

                      But by all means don't let any of the realities of beef production and nutritional challenges interfere with your delusions of why people are just "misinformed by the plot against farmers" turning more and more to alternative products. Because that is what good managers do, ignore 2 corners of a SWOT analysis.

                      Plants based protein markets are expected to grow 14% per year and will be over 35 billion by 2024. Already 40% of Canadians consider themselves flexitarians, and that is not going down. The big winner is farmers who grow higher protein ingredients, the loser is animal protein farmers who think all this will "pass". As products become more tasty, affordable, meat substitution partially by plant - 50/50 meats, and don't carry the guilt of animal slaughter, the trend will be only 1 way.

                      Meat contributes to 8 billion tonnes of CO2 per year, so it is an easy target because there is little to no pushback by the industry. You'll just complain on Agriville and call people uninformed.
                      How did humans evolve mentally according to scientific studies???? Dense meat proteins ???
                      I guess leading scientists are wrong ??
                      Just askin is all .

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                        #47
                        With change comes opportunity, and from a business perspective plant based diets are something that can't be ignored.

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                          Being a livestock producer I see the writing on the wall but at the same time I do not see the supply of beef growing neither outside of feedlots feeding to higher carcass weights. Any drop in consumption is matched by reductions in herd numbers here anyway. Throw out methane emissions and that for a minute, beef will become a luxury item for many. I do take issue with non livestock producers here who have a sanctimonious attitude towards livestock. It’s no better than some livestock producers attitudes towards grain producers. First the radicals will take down livestock and then the grain growers. Then we’ll see how smart you sound.
                          And so the reductions begin:

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                          That may work for dairy, but a little tougher to achieve in beef cow and production. You cannot keep increasing carcass weights infinitely?
                          Last edited by burnt; Feb 13, 2021, 07:46.

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