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    #13
    Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
    Canada ranks 35th in the world for vaccine rollout. There ought to be widespread outrage over this, but many Canadians prefer passive acceptance instead. We're becoming a nation of Soviet peasants who don't mind spending half their lives waiting in line for things. If this keeps up, there will be long lineups for more than just Covid vaccines.

    Here's the solution: keep governments out of the production, purchase and distribution of vaccines. Let private companies offer it for sale just as we do for every other pharmaceutical and a staggering array of goods beyond that.

    We've already lost a year dealing with this, so further delays will just crash the economy that much harder.
    What you suggest would be a huge step backwards.

    I am sure you would love a system where the richest people get to pay for early access with no plan for the poor elderly folks who are at much higher risk?

    The BC Casino CEO who flew to the Yukon with his wife/girlfriend to fraudulently get his "free" vacinne lost his job in shame.

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      #14
      Wow was that out of the Communist book or the NDP solidarity forever or Farmers Union.

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        #15
        From what I see keep the Government out of everything. We would be a much stronger happier Nation without the huge debt if the Government wasn't involved. Government screw up everything they touch!

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          #16
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          I think dml, you said the federal govt had this covered so I would think there is no reason for Pallister to get involved. If we have 400M vaccine doses secured, we should be good, right?

          Then why did he start his own program?
          I only told you what Canada ordered. I have no details on delivery or contract details and neither do you. And I don't know why Pallister decided to purchase what he did, for delivery if it is approved when ever that will be, why don't you ask him. I

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            #17
            "I have no details on delivery or contract details "

            Neither does your bestie the TURD!

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              #18
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              I think dml, you said the federal govt had this covered so I would think there is no reason for Pallister to get involved. If we have 400M vaccine doses secured, we should be good, right?

              Then why did he start his own program?
              DMLfarmer has been telling us Trudeau has everything under control. 🤡

              Count on every premier to be ordering vaccines.

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                #19
                Attitudes at all levels are different now compared to 85 years ago, and I agree govts job is to monitor.
                But anyone with any fair mind at all can see what govts are not good at.
                Who did govts turn to for wartime production solutions in two world wars?
                Has anyone owned a Belarus?
                I rest my case.
                Demanding govts to take complete control of everything is actually a century out of step and quite narrow minded at that. Touching on imbecilic really.
                It works in China. But this ain't China.

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  What you suggest would be a huge step backwards.

                  I am sure you would love a system where the richest people get to pay for early access with no plan for the poor elderly folks who are at much higher risk?

                  The BC Casino CEO who flew to the Yukon with his wife/girlfriend to fraudulently get his "free" vacinne lost his job in shame.
                  So what if the rich get early access? They drive nicer cars than I do, but that has no impact on my ability to purchase a Chevy.

                  Every day countless Canadians purchase inexpensive, widely available pharmaceuticals, simply because a price system is allowed to exist for these items. They are not sold via auction; rich people pay the same as anyone else.

                  Since the rich are allegedly about 1% of the population, that would only hold up the line for a few days at most.

                  Any other system condemns people to a life as Soviet peasants.
                  Last edited by Austrian Economics; Feb 11, 2021, 23:31.

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                    #21
                    Austria do you hear Erin O'toole campaigning on the promise to charge the public for their covid vaccines so that rich folks can get quicker access without waiting in line? That will be an election winning policy! Not! LOL

                    Do any provinces charge for the flu vaccine? Probably not because it is good public policy to make sure cost is not a barrier to reducing the spread of seasonal flu. It will be the same for covid.

                    Covid vaccines will be required every year. There will be multiple ways to get the vaccine in the future using doctors, clinics and pharmacies.
                    Last edited by chuckChuck; Feb 12, 2021, 09:22.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Austria do you hear Erin O'toole campaigning on the promise to charge the public for their covid vaccines so that rich folks can get quicker access without waiting in line? That will be an election winning policy! Not! LOL

                      Do any provinces charge for the flu vaccine? Probably not because it is good public policy to make sure cost is not a barrier to reducing the spread of seasonal flu. It will be the same for covid.

                      Covid vaccines will be required every year. There will be multiple ways to get the vaccine in the future using doctors, clinics and pharmacies.
                      I couldn't care less about O'Toole or his election platform. The truth or falsity of a proposition is not measured by how many voters support it.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
                        So what if the rich get early access? They drive nicer cars than I do, but that has no impact on my ability to purchase a Chevy.

                        Every day countless Canadians purchase inexpensive, widely available pharmaceuticals, simply because a price system is allowed to exist for these items. They are not sold via auction; rich people pay the same as anyone else.

                        Since the rich are allegedly about 1% of the population, that would only hold up the line for a few days at most.

                        Any other system condemns people to a life as Soviet peasants.
                        Isn't this the system we have now? Afterall, 3/4ths of the covid vaccinations that have been administered to date have gone to just 10 countries. 130 countries have not yet administered a single vaccine (as of Feb 4th)

                        Those 10 countries: US, UK, some EU nations, Israel, China, and Russia are among the richest nations, they had pre ordered more vaccines than they need, and they have existing vaccine manufacturing facilities.

                        The rich and powerful are getting the vaccines first - on a nation basis

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                          Isn't this the system we have now? Afterall, 3/4ths of the covid vaccinations that have been administered to date have gone to just 10 countries. 130 countries have not yet administered a single vaccine (as of Feb 4th)

                          Those 10 countries: US, UK, some EU nations, Israel, China, and Russia are among the richest nations, they had pre ordered more vaccines than they need, and they have existing vaccine manufacturing facilities.

                          The rich and powerful are getting the vaccines first - on a nation basis
                          By rich and powerful, do you mean nations which instituted industrial economic systems which are capable of mass production of vaccines and other scientific advancements? This is why they are rich and powerful. It's a feature of a rational economic system, not a bug. So of course these nations will be able to acquire vaccines much faster than nations mired in economic systems which facilitate central planning, corruption and decay.

                          Unfortunately the present Canadian government seems hell bent on instituting a corrupt, decaying economic model. Hence our pathetic vaccine rollout.

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