Power off most of Northeast Sask at -50 windchill , carbon tax ?????

[Guest]

And average temp in Berlin in Jan is +3

[Guest]

Those buses would work good here right ?

[SASKFARMER]

Something like This should work

[furrowtickler]

[FarmJunkie]

U get your current back Case?

[Guest]

U get your current back Case?

Yea half hour ago
Out all night

[fjlip]

How cold was it in house? Hear of damage in homes?

[foragefarmer]

Furrow you look so much like Kid Rock!

[Guest]

We were down to 50
Didn’t bother with generstor
Had to deal with bees

[helmsdale]

On the issue of "backup heat"... it's relatively easy and inexpensive to come up with at least the bare minimums for backup power, but what is the answer for backup heat?

Reading articles about natural gas wellhead and pipeline freeze off's in central US due to the cold snap, and resulting very low operating pressures with the possibility of full on scarcity over the immediate term. Spot prices have gone stratospheric in some locations!

We seem to be better prepared as far as natural gas supply goes for colder weather, but we are also in an era of general oversupply with regards to natural gas. When we convert over these coal plants, and perhaps add even more natural gas generation to backup renewables could there be supply shortages, or perhaps more like it "rationing"? The power plants will surely have access before you or I would.

I've heard of loop storage for nat gas, but is there a possibility of using something like a propane bullet? Multiple bullets?

You could go with electric backup, but your backup generation needs would be MASSIVE!

Converting to geothermal? But I haven't heard the greatest of feedback with regards to heat output on the absolute coldest of days. And the cost to convert over an entire farm?

Perhaps the easiest is a decent sized indirect fired diesel heater? If you had it on a trailer you could haul it from building to building in order to keep things thawed out, or do you just plumb your house for it and put in something to easily winterize water lines and such in a heated shop?

Other ideas?

[Hamloc]

On the issue of "backup heat"... it's relatively easy and inexpensive to come up with at least the bare minimums for backup power, but what is the answer for backup heat?

Reading articles about natural gas wellhead and pipeline freeze off's in central US due to the cold snap, and resulting very low operating pressures with the possibility of full on scarcity over the immediate term. Spot prices have gone stratospheric in some locations!

We seem to be better prepared as far as natural gas supply goes for colder weather, but we are also in an era of general oversupply with regards to natural gas. When we convert over these coal plants, and perhaps add even more natural gas generation to backup renewables could there be supply shortages, or perhaps more like it "rationing"? The power plants will surely have access before you or I would.

I've heard of loop storage for nat gas, but is there a possibility of using something like a propane bullet? Multiple bullets?

You could go with electric backup, but your backup generation needs would be MASSIVE!

Converting to geothermal? But I haven't heard the greatest of feedback with regards to heat output on the absolute coldest of days. And the cost to convert over an entire farm?

Perhaps the easiest is a decent sized indirect fired diesel heater? If you had it on a trailer you could haul it from building to building in order to keep things thawed out, or do you just plumb your house for it and put in something to easily winterize water lines and such in a heated shop?

Other ideas?

Interesting topic, one I haven’t given enough thought. Maybe a centralized wood fired boiler with underground lines to the shop and house. Not cheap but once installed combined with a diesel back up generator it would work. Lots of access to deadfall in my area.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Interesting topic, one I haven’t given enough thought. Maybe a centralized wood fired boiler with underground lines to the shop and house. Not cheap but once installed combined with a diesel back up generator it would work. Lots of access to deadfall in my area.

I'm guessing there might be a reason why helmsdale sisnt mention burning wood. Living in a treeline desert and all, probably burn more fuel driving to my area to get wood, than the heat he would get back out.

[helmsdale]

I'm guessing there might be a reason why helmsdale sisnt mention burning wood. Living in a treeline desert and all, probably burn more fuel driving to my area to get wood, than the heat he would get back out.

Neighbor has a multi-fuel boiler... Coal/nat gas. nice idea, but coal isn't COOL anymore. Tree's are revered here. Most people with plentiful trees hate them, but they require constant attention to get them to grow here. And even with well established 80+yr old trees, a prolonged drought for which the S.A. is famous, they can just keel over and die.

[farming101]

Outdoor automatic coal/multifuel stoker, even with the carbon tax it's competitive.
Used oil furnace for shop
Wheat furnace, yes wheat....

[WiltonRanch]

Outdoor automatic coal/multifuel stoker, even with the carbon tax it's competitive.
Used oil furnace for shop
Wheat furnace, yes wheat....

Yes when Tweety gets their wish and livestock production is blackballed we’ll have to burn all the shitty grain instead of making beef.