The Statue of Liberty Weeps...

[burnt]

And the other poster ,what I disagree with jesus about.
Well not a lot except the God and religion part.

So you offer a non-response. You have now repeatedly dismissed or belittled a man who is believed to be, at the very least, one of the greatest moral teachers of all time.

Here is your opportunity to distinguish yourself between being a a mindless bigot or a a thoughtful critic if you will answer the question: Which of the teachings of Jesus do you disagree with?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If we thought arguing with the religious zealots who " beieve" in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming against any and all evidence was a futile effort; that's nothing compared to arguing with a creationist.

I love a good debate, but even I will steer clear of this one.

[Guest]

If it all turns out to be bullshit , and I’m not saying it is, it’s still a good way to bring up your kids
Consequences, morality , a conscience , the golden rule , these are all good things
And that’s all I have to say about that

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If it all turns out to be bullshit , and I’m not saying it is, it’s still a good way to bring up your kids
Consequences, morality , a conscience , the golden rule , these are all good things
And that’s all I have to say about that

Ok, I will get involved. It is possible to live a righteous and moral life, follow the golden rules etc, without believing all of the fairytales wholesale.
And the opposite is also true. It is possible to believe (publicly at least) in all the fairytales, And still break all of the golden rules regularly and seemingly with impunity.

[Guest]

Ok, I will get involved. It is possible to live a righteous and moral life, follow the golden rules etc, without believing all of the fairytales wholesale.
And the opposite is also true. It is possible to believe (publicly at least) in all the fairytales, And still break all of the golden rules regularly and seemingly with impunity.

i agree , wholeheartedly
my point , simply, is that some people need something to follow
lots of the crookedest bastards in this country sit in the front row

[WiltonRanch]

If we thought arguing with the religious zealots who " beieve" in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming against any and all evidence was a futile effort; that's nothing compared to arguing with a creationist.

I love a good debate, but even I will steer clear of this one.

Beat me to it. I go by what Jordan Peterson said and I paraphrase “the evidence tells me god doesn’t exist but I hope he does”.
I remember a philosophy lecture I sat in on once and the prof said “you may not identify as being religious but if you abide by western morality and observe some of our Christian based holidays you are a social Christian. I hate zealots and self righteous hiding their sins and obtuse opinions behind whatever religion they abuse. At the end of the day though we are lucky western nations were and are Protestant based. No lording over of the Catholic Church or the degradation of the modern Islamic state.

[Herc]

First Politics, now Religion....good thing its warming up this week....

[sawfly1]

Burnt , I thought I was fairly complimentary about
Jesus. But my bet is he was a human.
Nothing more.nothing less.
Maybe he was just a real good guy that
Was religious too.
I know a lot of people like that.
Joe Smhoo could be a good guy too and say all the same things but not many would really listen .
You gotta Add the carrot and stick of heaven /hell and God watching your every move.
Fear and hope , I think most religions use it quite effectively.
I can not prove there is a God or not one .
Then to even get more specific as to what brand of
God your going for , is a pretty big stretch of logic.
It just seems all these different brands are pretty obviously human creations.