Recent partisan "Fixes"

[oneoff]

Pretty limited response eh. But THANKS to few who do care.

The described situation is real council business. It is a display of "deriliction of duty" to ignore it; as it is to condone it; or to encourage in any way the repeating of this type of behavior.
The reasons for elected officials to remain silent are not excusable.
There's not even a letter to the editor column local paper anymore available; and its possible most of society has other personal more pressing problems as evidenced by lack of response on agriville.

[bucket]

oneoff

The media isn't going to look into your story. That would mean they would have to do their job. They are more worried about how hard or soft butter is...that is a real story that makes people go hmmmm????

The WP is more interested in hearing from Ralph Goodale's opinion and his take on agristability , of which he knows nothing...

Fluff , that is what the media does ...easy money to keep people uninformed . ...that is what Trudeau paid them for...fluff.

And with the right band of Trudeau bootlickers it will continue.

[oneoff]

We always, always, always get the governments we deserve (at all three levels). All ways; all ways and all ways.

[bucket]

We always, always, always get the governments we deserve (at all three levels). Always; always and always.

Popularity contests are a bad way to elect governments...there are very few elected politicians that are qualified to do the job they are paid to do...of any stripe...municipal elections even worse.

[LEP]

We always, always, always get the governments we deserve (at all three levels). Always; always and always.

I didn't reply because this has been ruminated several times. At least two elections have passed since you started bringing up these issues with your council.

The obvious answer to problems with local government is find others whom are just as concerned and run for council. You had atleast two chances so far.

I think the resistance you have received on your request for information is probably rooted in your history of constantly headbutting with them. It isn't right. But you can expect maximum resistance with your approach.

The long and short of the issue is if you had a valid reason for needing the gps coordinates for the wellpad talk to Vermillion Energy yourself. If you are an affected party, I am sure they would help you out.

If you aren't an affected party then WTF is all the fuss about?

P.S. A hint. It's a bad sign if you are the only one to reply to your own thread, multiple times.

[LEP]

Popularity contests are a bad way to elect governments...there are very few elected politicians that are qualified to do the job they are paid to do...of any stripe...municipal elections even worse.

You should run. It would be an easy win then.

[bucket]

You should run. It would be an easy win then.

You must be a politician or on a farm group ...your response is typical of criticism ..

They always say " get involved " or " " you should run"....and my rebuttal is " you resign and admit your incompetence"

Then I will clean up your mess.


Wouldn't it be easier to take good advice and listen to constituents or farmers?

I would run but the so called capitalist/closet socialists wouldn't like it.

[LEP]

You must be a politician or on a farm group ...your response is typical of criticism ..

They always say " get involved " or " " you should run"....and my rebuttal is " you resign and admit your incompetence"

Then I will clean up your mess.


Wouldn't it be easier to take good advice and listen to constituents or farmers?

Thing is you don't know me. I am in my second term as councillor on an RM. I post my cellphone on the website and answer all calls. We have the lowest taxes in the province. Do our best to keep the roads in fair shape and post a surplus every year.

You armchair quarterback all the time. You apparently have a high opinion of yourself claiming you will clean up my mess. You seem to hard to get along with and yet you state "wouldn't it be easier to take good advice and listen to constituents or farmers". Almost more than anyone on Agriville you have a my way or the highway approach. Priceless.

[bucket]

Thing is you don't know me. I am in my second term as councillor on an RM. I post my cellphone on the website and answer all calls. We have the lowest taxes in the province. Do our best to keep the roads in fair shape and post a surplus every year.

You armchair quarterback all the time. You apparently have a high opinion of yourself claiming you will clean up my mess. You seem to hard to get along with and yet you state "wouldn't it be easier to take good advice and listen to constituents or farmers". Almost more than anyone on Agriville you have a my way or the highway approach. Priceless.

I might bitch and complain but I also offer solutions...I dont have a patent on good ideas but I expect politicians to listen to them...

I have been an RM councillor decades ago...I well understand local RM politics...

If you read my post you would have noticed the phrase "there are very few elected politicians "

You are right I don't know you, but I did peg you as a politician....you may fit into the very few that actually know what they are doing...

I think we would get along just fine...because both sides get discussed on issues...you don't seem like a cheerleading type.


This is way off topic.

oneoff is pointing out issues with the council that has been ruled on by the provincial ombudsman and they still refuse to comply....thats a problem.

[LEP]

I might bitch and complain but I also offer solutions...I dont have a patent on good ideas but I expect politicians to listen to them...

I have been an RM councillor decades ago...I well understand local RM politics...

If you read my post you would have noticed the phrase "there are very few elected politicians "

You are right I don't know you, but I did peg you as a politician....you may fit into the very few that actually know what they are doing...

I think we would get along just fine...because both sides get discussed on issues...you don't seem like a cheerleading type.


This is way off topic.

oneoff is pointing out issues with the council that has been ruled on by the provincial ombudsman and they still refuse to comply....thats a problem.

This is slightly off topic I agree. No I don't sitback very often and watch shit happen without saying something. I also step up and work on quite a few projects when no one else will. Some comments from the sidelines are to be expected but when it goes on for years from the same people it really just becomes hard to take.

I agree that the situation with Oneoff is wrong. But was it so much about getting the gps coordinates for a wellpad or was it to try and antagonize and shit disturb. If it was the information he requires he could easily have gotten it elsewhere.

But I don't think that is his reason for the continual complaints.

Edit: Oh and just because you suggest things doesn't mean it is right. It still has to pass council or be fully considered before agreed to. That is where I think being on council or a board would be good for you. You realize you are just one vote and have to present something that has the support of the majority.

[oneoff]

I didn't reply because this has been ruminated several times. At least two elections have passed since you started bringing up these issues with your council.

The obvious answer to problems with local government is find others whom are just as concerned and run for council. You had atleast two chances so far.

I think the resistance you have received on your request for information is probably rooted in your history of constantly headbutting with them. It isn't right. But you can expect maximum resistance with your approach.

The long and short of the issue is if you had a valid reason for needing the gps coordinates for the wellpad talk to Vermillion Energy yourself. If you are an affected party, I am sure they would help you out.

If you aren't an affected party then WTF is all the fuss about?

P.S. A hint. It's a bad sign if you are the only one to reply to your own thread, multiple times.

This is response is for LEP and his flawed analysis

P.S. A hint. It's a bad sign if you are the only one to reply to your own thread, multiple times.


You always neglect to acknowledge council attempts to completely hide all council business.

Even to the extent of every adopted council minutes that have not been disclosed by any means. Add to that outright council rejections of recommendations of every Ombudsman investigation and the decision posted above (from Office of Privacy Commissioner lawyer, Q.C and head of that body you are compelled to respect; and the decision recommendations which has been quoted from the CANLII website).

There is but one conclusion. You dear sir are also complicit in this spreading governance problem....if you can catch what is being said.

[LEP]

This is response is for LEP and his flawed analysis

P.S. A hint. It's a bad sign if you are the only one to reply to your own thread, multiple times.


You always neglect to acknowledge council attempts to completely hide all council business.

Even to the extent of every adopted council minutes that have not been disclosed by any means. Add to that outright council rejections of recommendations of every Ombudsman investigation and the decision posted above (from Office of Privacy Commissioner lawyer, Q.C and head of that body you are compelled to respect; and the decision recommendations which has been quoted from the CANLII website).

There is but one conclusion. You dear sir are also complicit in this spreading governance problem....if you can catch what is being said.

Actually the very meaning of local politics is that it is local. I said previously that it is wrong that they did not disclose the information to you. I hardly think it something that I should get involved in. I live closer to the city of Edmonton than your RM.

It is up to a higher level of government to deal with this, hence the Privacy Commissioner ruling. Next it is up to the electors to decide if this is something that they are concerned about. So your issue is their lack of concern, not mine.

Your fight over several issues are longstanding and well documented. So if the electors haven't made changes to council, (in the past two or more elections) since this began, it kind of tells you who's side they are on and how much they are worried about Council's conduct.

Actions speak louder than words.