CGC review

[foragefarmer]

there is the difference between you and I ...

i have balls and you have none.

fn chicken sh..it hiding like a nazi war criminal

Ya big difference I'm a maker and your a taker with no skin in the game and therefore no Balls!

[blackpowder]

And there is your example of the resident legacy in our industry.
Thanks to all the predeceasers who allowed a one time mutually beneficial co-op spirit turn into an us or them argument to the death. Picking over the bones of a dinosaur while ignoring the comet. Nobody's fault on here. Perpetuation of an inherent belief.
It's why a flamethrower was necessary in 2012 and still today.

[blackpowder]

I mean honestly you can't find this level of paralyzing mistrust reading grain threads from any other western nation.
The only thing special about us is that we would make a great psychology thesis.

[LWeber]

Ya big difference I'm a maker and your a taker with no skin in the game and therefore no Balls!

maker...LMAO

you p u ss y - there are no faceless makers

[westernvicki]

We need:
1/ Sales reporting

2/ Revamp risk management insurance.
implement a short term risk management insurance model as used in the USA. Expand it to include value add buyers, and all commodities.

Simple & comprehensive.

Licensing and bonding fails to address the multinational risk many companies operate in.

3/ Assistant Commissioners that engage.

[wmoebis]

Why was the Office of Assistant Commissioners vacated with no replacement? We need A Grain Farmers Advocacy Office completely separate from CGC Like the Compas review suggested. It needs even more power than was suggested back then as there is way more issues that have come up since the recommendations were made.

[westernvicki]

There are a lot of takers in the farm sector,
they may make or take grain but do not make a difference for their industry. They can be on a board or not.

I note that Larry has asked for sales reporting for farmers since the CWB went. He was a major critic of Ritz for not doing this when the CWB was disbanded. And he was right. We were at the time in the love in of the CWB being gone and did not have the foresight to ask for rules that would work for us.


This year as the majority of grain was sold much lower than current bids, you can multiply the impact of information on your bottom line, and most of you too embarrassed to admit you likely listened to a higher paid adviser who read it all wrong.

Anyone listening to Weber will know that he called the Great Grain Robbery end of October. You likely still have canola left if you listened to Weber, we do.


Most never caught on and still more will not admit he was right, because it means that who they listened to was so very wrong and missed the signs.

A maker is someone who makes a difference. For farming to remain a successful industry requires respect of those who give a shit enough to try. Few will stand up in a room and defend their opinion of what they believe is right. Lots not on that list farmers, farm advisors, and industry voices won't say boo, but gladly will take the job of representing us on countless committees nationally and globally.

Go along to get along.. not a hope in hell of getting sales reporting, wanna bet.

[wmoebis]

Totally agree, mandatory sales reporting and contract delivery issues could all be under control of Advocacy office that operated independently of CGC and had legal powers to enforce the ACT. IE: RCMP don't make the traffic laws they enforce them.

The CGC has had some of those powers but has not been enforcing. I think it was the late Paul Beingessner that refer to the CGC as a watch dog with no teeth. Then when SEC 9 was repealed by Ritz in 2010 it got worse.

[furrowtickler]

There are a lot of takers in the farm sector,
they may make or take grain but do not make a difference for their industry. They can be on a board or not.

I note that Larry has asked for sales reporting for farmers since the CWB went. He was a major critic of Ritz for not doing this when the CWB was disbanded. And he was right. We were at the time in the love in of the CWB being gone and did not have the foresight to ask for rules that would work for us.


This year as the majority of grain was sold much lower than current bids, you can multiply the impact of information on your bottom line, and most of you too embarrassed to admit you likely listened to a higher paid adviser who read it all wrong.

Anyone listening to Weber will know that he called the Great Grain Robbery end of October. You likely still have canola left if you listened to Weber, we do.


Most never caught on and still more will not admit he was right, because it means that who they listened to was so very wrong and missed the signs.

A maker is someone who makes a difference. For farming to remain a successful industry requires respect of those who give a shit enough to try. Few will stand up in a room and defend their opinion of what they believe is right. Lots not on that list farmers, farm advisors, and industry voices won't say boo, but gladly will take the job of representing us on countless committees nationally and globally.

Go along to get along.. not a hope in hell of getting sales reporting, wanna bet.

Agree , but just a bit of devils advocate here ... not everyone can hold till this time of year . Some can , most cant . If your running a commercial farm only with no outside income , grain sales need to pay bills .
The problem was , as Larry pointed out , the market was out of touch . Most of us knew that , and that was the unfortunate part , but after 2 tough harvests , some grain needed to move .

[CptnObvious]

Good enough reason for me to ask for my checkoff money back. What irritates me the most is they don't mention that spending at the AGM or mention the review...and the fact they don't think farmers can think for themselves...highlights what is wrong with commissions.

You think you pay a check-off to the CGC?

[bucket]

You think you pay a check-off to the CGC?

Nope ...but i pay a checkoff to Saskwheat who goes out and hires a CWB hack who writes a report with checkoff money...the guy had years at the CWB to engage with government to make changes ...he did nothing but operate in a cloak of secrecy / dome of silence...

So where did the 130 million dollar slush fund the CGC has come from????

[bucket]

There are a lot of takers in the farm sector,
they may make or take grain but do not make a difference for their industry. They can be on a board or not.

I note that Larry has asked for sales reporting for farmers since the CWB went. He was a major critic of Ritz for not doing this when the CWB was disbanded. And he was right. We were at the time in the love in of the CWB being gone and did not have the foresight to ask for rules that would work for us.


This year as the majority of grain was sold much lower than current bids, you can multiply the impact of information on your bottom line, and most of you too embarrassed to admit you likely listened to a higher paid adviser who read it all wrong.

Anyone listening to Weber will know that he called the Great Grain Robbery end of October. You likely still have canola left if you listened to Weber, we do.


Most never caught on and still more will not admit he was right, because it means that who they listened to was so very wrong and missed the signs.

A maker is someone who makes a difference. For farming to remain a successful industry requires respect of those who give a shit enough to try. Few will stand up in a room and defend their opinion of what they believe is right. Lots not on that list farmers, farm advisors, and industry voices won't say boo, but gladly will take the job of representing us on countless committees nationally and globally.

Go along to get along.. not a hope in hell of getting sales reporting, wanna bet.

Well said. I too was caught up in the rah rah of the open market. To my dismay and embarrassment I now have to put my hand up to admit that as a farmer thought they, Ritz and minions, had the no brainer parts of the open market taken care of.

Things like sales reporting and more transparency in the industry. Things that farmers to the south of us in the states have had for nearly 50 years...

The lesson learnt was to sit in meetings and ask questions and make sure my farm business interests are heard...because I see very few standing up for my interests...

Larry Weber is one guy that has farmer interests at the forefront...If government even listened to one tenth of what he knows , we would all be better off.