Climate Events

[furrowtickler]

There is a side in the middle , where time will show what’s actually going on
So far very few if any scary predictions have remotely came true .
Problem is in the meantime the climate activists continue to ratchet up the fear factor .

[foragefarmer]

And to top it off Tom4Tom throws medical assistance dying which has been legal in Canada since 2016, following a landmark Supreme Court ruling a year earlier.

Conservative MP Stephen Fletcher wrote the book" Master of My Fate. Fletcher's doctor assisted dying bills were introduced in the House of Commons in March 2014, when Harpo was still PM.

Polls finds strong support for expanding access to medical assistance in dying amongst Canadians. But Tom4Tom knows what is right for all Canadians.

Tom4Tom will use every opportunity to throw in his faith based believes with disingenuousness facts just to railroad threads.

Tom4Tom the big proponent and Champion of Individual and Property rights, when it serves his purpose.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The confidence of the sides is what intrigues me.

The one relies on the slosh words of "if, could, probable, likely, unlikely, and an unacceptable chance of 10%".

The other relies on "faith and the fear of God".

No wonder there exist such conflict.

That is an interesting analysis. Not sure how accurate.
The real scientists do acknowledge the uncertainties, but then the media, the politicians, the true believers like Chuck get ahold of it and present these things as certain facts, and declare the debate to be over. While also labeling anyone who points out the uncertainties as a denier.
But as for the faith, and fear of God, I think you have that completely backwards. Global warming is the new religion. Just listen to the words Chuck uses, believe is one of the most used. Evidence is discarded, always deferring to having faith in the fear inducing models of the future. Always preaching future scenarios involving doom and gloom and damnation. Offering salvation if you join their church.
Even their purgatory is very similar, hot and fiery.
Never question the authority of the all knowing oracles at the top of the pyramid.
Everyone who doesn't believe is a heretic, and a denier, even calling for prison and denial of rights, just like back in the Good old days when the church ruled surpreme.
Oh, and like all religions, please send money.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The confidence of the sides is what intrigues me.

The one relies on the slosh words of "if, could, probable, likely, unlikely, and an unacceptable chance of 10%

In all fairness, even the highly political IPCC reports admit the very large uncertainties, low confidence, and low probabilities buried deep in the bodies of the reports.
However, all of that honest science is discarded In the summary for policymakers which is what The media and the politicians read, then convolute and corrupt even further.
By the time the actual science has been disseminated out to the great unwashed masses, it comes across as being absulutely certain. And by the time an uninformed and uneducated useful idiot comes on a forum such as this to spread the gospel, he is fully convinced that we are facing an imminent apocalypse with such certain certainty that there is no room for debate.

[chuckChuck]

Yes there are uncertainties in the climate change models.

But many of the posters on Agrisilly are not only skeptical of models, they are skeptical of the basic physics and science of climate change.

And to top it all off they don't even think the recent temperature data collected by world class scientific institutions is accurate!

For example if I post a NOAA map of the air and ocean temperature anomalies for the month of January 2021 or the year 2020 there will be numerous posts claiming they are wrong!

Just how any farmer or layperson would think they have the global data analyzed to suggest that the maps are wrong is f..king hilarious.

You would think that if all the claims made by world class scientific organizations are so far off the mark that there would be at least one credible scientific organization willing to point it out?

But alas A5, the best you can come up with is a few climate change denier tidbits often taken out context and in no way do they disprove the reality of human caused climate change.

In fact you even embarrass yourself further by suggesting that we are going to run out of CO2 if we don't burn fossil fuels! Which indicates you don't even understand the basic carbon cycle.

How did you got an engineering degree without relying on science and evidence to back up your work?

[Guest]

Oh that’s easy
“Everywhere is warming twice as fast as anywhere else”
We just can’t understand why you cant think for yourself
One thing they need to do is get their thermometers out of the cities for starters

[fjlip]

So credible, for 50 years...











Keep believing while freezing

[chuckChuck]

Oh that’s easy
“Everywhere is warming twice as fast as anywhere else”
We just can’t understand why you cant think for yourself
One thing they need to do is get their thermometers out of the cities for starters

1. Ocean temperatures are taken out of the cities.
2. The majority of earth's warming so far has been absorbed by the oceans.
3. It should be pretty easy for scientists to calculate the impact of urban heat islands in their analysis on land temperatures.
3. The majority of temperature data is collected outside of cities and much of it by satellites.


https://www.geospatialworld.net/blogs/satellites-for-monitoring-climate-change/ https://www.geospatialworld.net/blogs/satellites-for-monitoring-climate-change/

How satellite imagery is crucial for monitoring climate change
By
Aditya Chaturvedi -
01/30/2020


“If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it”, said MarÃa Fernanda Espinosa Garcés, President of the United Nations General Assembly at the COP 24 in Katowice Poland, summing up how crucial satellites are for measuring climate change.

Satellite measurements of Earth’s temperature, greenhouse gas emissions, sea levels, atmospheric gases, dwindling ice and forest cover etc, are essential for improving the understanding of Climate change and predicting future of the Earth.

Innovation such as miniaturization of sensors, high-speed data transfer, and upgraded storage capabilities have made satellites an integral part of the climate change mission. It is simply inconceivable to assess climate change sans insights provided by satellites. Without precise data and other inputs provided by satellites, environmentalists and scientists won’t be able to understand, analyze and predict the impact of climate change, and policymakers won’t be able to formulate effective strategies.

Using an array of satellites, organizations like NASA, NOAA and ESA monitors ocean conditions, clouds, temperature, sea levels and heat content, to get information on how fast Earth’s temperature is changing.

[fjlip]

Chew on this hoax exposing...Older pre 1960 data is NO WAY as accurate as today's thermometers and satellites. Very hard to square the data, oh they just DELETE 30 years, ignore medieval warming, the 30's.

https://youtu.be/K_8xd0LCeRQ https://youtu.be/K_8xd0LCeRQ

[FarmJunkie]

Scientists and politicians are just pissed that they can’t control the sun and find a way to tax humans for its use.