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Originally posted by furrowtickler View PostI don’t refuse it , I have stated that
What is refused is the other way around
The impact of man is exaggerated to push the green agenda . That’s pretty much what I have said over and over . That’s the way I see it . Too many things don’t add up to be a one way street that’s being preached to the public
But go ahead and think you can continue to lecture everyone on here who challenges the status quoe on nearly everything non ag related .... I think it actually give your that power trip feeling .
So you believe man is affecting climate but the problem is exaggerated. By how much is it exaggerated? Based on what evidence is the problem exaggerated? If man is affecting climate as you now say you believe, should man be doing anything about it? What? Or are you content to just list excuses like cycles and do nothing?
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Originally posted by dmlfarmer View PostThanks for the analysis Dr Phil.
So you believe man is affecting climate but the problem is exaggerated. By how much is it exaggerated? Based on what evidence is the problem exaggerated? If man is affecting climate as you now say you believe, should man be doing anything about it? What? Or are you content to just list excuses like cycles and do nothing?
One small piece of evidence is the false presumption that growing seasons in western Canada are now longer ... that was being pushed two years ago
Absolutely not true , but it’s like beating a dead horse because the truth stood in the way of the narrative being pushed .
Yes we are getting a one week heat wave now and it will be all over every msm , social media .. everywhere
But not a word of the 5 frosts at the end of May , another 1 or 2 in June depending on location ... that’s just as extraordinary as this heat wave but will be ignored, just like the August frosts and early September snows that devastated crops in huge areas in western Canada the past few years . Why ? Cause it does not fit the narrative , but today sure does
DYODD .... there is much more to what’s going on than carbon , but majority of people can’t think for themselves anymore .
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Originally posted by dmlfarmer View PostYes it has. Too bad you refuse to see that it is also possible man is impacting climate just as the sun, cycles, geology, etc. Amazing how similar Climate change denial is to Covid denial. Any excuse you can dream up is better than having to face the real possibility that man is contributing to the problem and it is easier to deny a problem even exists than consider the possibility much less take any action against it.
My thought is this, if government actually believes what it says that, the amount of C02 in the atmosphere has already guaranteed that the climate will warm, should we not be spending money making the crops we grow more resilient to heat. Wheat and Barley are most productive at 20-25* celsius, flowering during a period over +30 greatly reduces yield. Wouldn’t money be better spend on adapting our food production to tolerate the change in climate? What about relocating peoples residences out of flood plains? The list goes on. But in reality the government is spending its money subsidizing electric car charging stations and subsidizing Chinese made solar panels. So attack our outlook all you want, I won’t support our present federal government’s policies!
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Well this thread got derailed.
Here's an attempt to put it back on track.
Has anyone else punched soil cores? Drove around yesterday and all crops are suffering. It doesn't matter whether it's on chemfallow or stubble. There is still respectable moisture in the entire 12" soil profile with the exception of the top 1.5", but it seems that the crop is completely unable to keep up. Compaction certainly shows up this year!
How long do you guys think you can hold on? Yield most certainly has been taken off the table. Models do not seem to indicate any respite in the near or even medium term future.
Speaking for this area, some crops are done regardless of whether the heat breaks today, tomorrow, or two weeks from now. In another week it'll be approaching disaster across the board, and if meaningful rain doesnt show up until harvest time, combines will be rolling in the low spots on all crop types the last week of July to try and gather up seed for next year.
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Originally posted by Hamloc View PostDml what do you consider to be action against it? What are you doing personally to take action against it?
My thought is this, if government actually believes what it says that, the amount of C02 in the atmosphere has already guaranteed that the climate will warm, should we not be spending money making the crops we grow more resilient to heat. Wheat and Barley are most productive at 20-25* celsius, flowering during a period over +30 greatly reduces yield. Wouldn’t money be better spend on adapting our food production to tolerate the change in climate? What about relocating peoples residences out of flood plains? The list goes on. But in reality the government is spending its money subsidizing electric car charging stations and subsidizing Chinese made solar panels. So attack our outlook all you want, I won’t support our present federal government’s policies!
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Originally posted by helmsdale View PostWell this thread got derailed.
Here's an attempt to put it back on track.
Has anyone else punched soil cores? Drove around yesterday and all crops are suffering. It doesn't matter whether it's on chemfallow or stubble. There is still respectable moisture in the entire 12" soil profile with the exception of the top 1.5", but it seems that the crop is completely unable to keep up. Compaction certainly shows up this year!
How long do you guys think you can hold on? Yield most certainly has been taken off the table. Models do not seem to indicate any respite in the near or even medium term future.
Speaking for this area, some crops are done regardless of whether the heat breaks today, tomorrow, or two weeks from now. In another week it'll be approaching disaster across the board, and if meaningful rain doesnt show up until harvest time, combines will be rolling in the low spots on all crop types the last week of July to try and gather up seed for next year.
Crops are hanging on but we still have to make it through the next 5 days
Not sure what to expect but it won’t be good
Crop is using a lot of moisture right now
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Originally posted by helmsdale View PostHow long do you guys think you can hold on? Yield most certainly has been taken off the table. Models do not seem to indicate any respite in the near or even medium term future.
Real lack of thunderstorms here too.
I think we can reasonably survive a week to 10 days. Coolish nights will help.
But the big crop is long gone now especially in canola. Wonder if the market experts will figure that out this time.
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Originally posted by helmsdale View PostWell this thread got derailed.
Here's an attempt to put it back on track.
Has anyone else punched soil cores? Drove around yesterday and all crops are suffering. It doesn't matter whether it's on chemfallow or stubble. There is still respectable moisture in the entire 12" soil profile with the exception of the top 1.5", but it seems that the crop is completely unable to keep up. Compaction certainly shows up this year!
How long do you guys think you can hold on? Yield most certainly has been taken off the table. Models do not seem to indicate any respite in the near or even medium term future.
Speaking for this area, some crops are done regardless of whether the heat breaks today, tomorrow, or two weeks from now. In another week it'll be approaching disaster across the board, and if meaningful rain doesnt show up until harvest time, combines will be rolling in the low spots on all crop types the last week of July to try and gather up seed for next year.
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Originally posted by Hamloc View Postmajority of the crop won’t be in full flowering stage development for another 2 to 3 weeks which could minimize the amount of heat damage. Personally at the speed crops are advancing around here flowering will be done by then.
I noticed even later seeded canola is rushing to bolt now. I have a neighbor who seeded 2 weeks after I did and his is bolting now too, just mere days behind mine. The crop feels stress, its not waiting.
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Annual crops still look pretty decent here considering the lack of moisture. Thinner than we are used to, isnt tillering like normal though. The big swath of hail that went through provided some moisture and that area looks overall better than where the storm didnt go. (minus the house and vehicle damage). Also the delay on the canola may help yield as early canola is bolting in the heat this week.
Hay and pasture is dismal, hay has been shriveling up the last couple weeks, mostly cut here and will be a third of normal. Not sure what is gonna happen with the pastures, there is a big wreck coming here if it dont rain soon and will be a big wreck for a big number of head. An inch or two isn't gonna help the grass, it needs a couple weeks of wet cooler weather to recover or its done.
It really feels like fall around here, hard to believe it's still June.
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