plant breeders’ rights penalty

[farming101]

Y'all too busy participating in the White Power conference in Florida to discuss off patent herbicide tolerance seed owned by farmers?

Not to change the subject but I wonder why there are 240 soybean varieties with novel trait up for cancellation?

https://www.inspection.gc.ca/plant-varieties/variety-registration/registered-varieties-and-cancellations/registration-cancellations/eng/1410971290935/1410971291748 https://www.inspection.gc.ca/plant-varieties/variety-registration/registered-varieties-and-cancellations/registration-cancellations/eng/1410971290935/1410971291748

[shtferbrains]

Y'all too busy participating in the White Power conference in Florida to discuss off patent herbicide tolerance seed owned by farmers?

Can you give us an example of a farmer gr
oup that is making that work under similar situation?

Or do you just like to needle?

[tweety]

Can you give us an example of a farmer gr
oup that is making that work under similar situation?

Or do you just like to needle?

So you have to have a working example before you realize the millions you could save by creating your own herbicide tolerant canola variety?

But since you asked, KSU and the KWIC. Most wheat grown in Kansas is farmer owned/controlled/inspired varieties.

https://agriculture.ks.gov/docs/default-source/ag-growth-summit/january-2018-documents/wheat-sector.pdf https://agriculture.ks.gov/docs/default-source/ag-growth-summit/january-2018-documents/wheat-sector.pdf

I do also like to needle because if you can't see the opportunity here, then there truly is no hope for ya.

[saskcanfarmer]

So you have to have a working example before you realize the millions you could save by creating your own herbicide tolerant canola variety?

But since you asked, KSU and the KWIC. Most wheat grown in Kansas is farmer owned/controlled/inspired varieties.

https://agriculture.ks.gov/docs/default-source/ag-growth-summit/january-2018-documents/wheat-sector.pdf https://agriculture.ks.gov/docs/default-source/ag-growth-summit/january-2018-documents/wheat-sector.pdf

I do also like to needle because if you can't see the opportunity here, then there truly is no hope for ya.

What’s the rate of certified seed used in Kansas?

[tweety]

What’s the rate of certified seed used in Kansas?

Something like 80% of the varieties grown are from the joint ownership between farmers and university. Certified seed isn't a problem if you own the rights. Then all you're paying for is really good, inspected and clean seed - which you would be paying for anyway to make really good seed. KSU will do custom germplasm development as well.

I seriously doubt the big seed companies have anything to worry about. Farmers are way too lazy in Canada to do anything like saving millions and having their own HT canola - because that makes good business sense. Better to spend time arguing and losing against rules that the CSTA can dream up to hold your nuts to the fire.

[bucket]

Y'all too busy participating in the White Power conference in Florida to discuss off patent herbicide tolerance seed owned by farmers?

Tweety

Do you think the checkoff fund groups could or should take ownership of varieties with the amount of funding they provide for R&D for new varieties?

Or take ownership of varieties they helped develop when being de-registered?

Do all farmers need the latest and greatest varieties when weather impacts downgrading factors as much as the gene needled into a new variety?

For instance the fusarium year of 2016 wasn't from the seed I used, because I used the same seed in 2017 with no issues ....It was all created by the weather we had.

[Freightshaker]

I seriously doubt the big seed companies have anything to worry about. Farmers are way too lazy in Canada to do anything like saving millions and having their own HT canola - because that makes good business sense. Better to spend time arguing and losing against rules that the CSTA can dream up to hold your nuts to the fire.

Are big seed companies questioning 1 lb/acre seeding rates? Asking for a friend.

[jazz]

Good for us lazy farmers to see our resident farm policy expert hard at work shaming us.

There have been dozens of varieties that have come off patent and into farmers hands for us only for the govt to succumb to big lobbying and get them deregistered. A few yrs ago you could plant an off patent canola variety until the big companies strong armed all the guys who held it and they quickly dumped their supply.

Takes more than just development of something in your basement with the local university egghead to get it to market.

Why havent US farmers developed their own corn and soy seed. The US wheat crop is insignificant compared to those crops so I guess Monsanto doesnt care if farmers flirt with some university.

Wonder if Tweety heard of Triffid before? Thats the first thing that would happen if farmers developed their own supply. Gezus they dont even want Nexera mixed with anything else or they reject entire entire loads.

Lentils were almost exclusively bred and develop here by farmers and the UofS team. they were successful in getting the varieties adapted and for a while it was gangbusters, but what did they miss? A functional herbicide to go along with it. Thats where the big boys stepped back in, didnt take over the seed supply, but developed the only working chemical for it and charge big money for it and reglone to boot. So your seed is free, but your chemical is $40 an acre.

Unless farmers are supposed to start their own chem plants too? Why not fertilizer. Hell why not our own machine line.

Farmers can make millions of dollars in owning the stocks of these parasites, not trying to out compete them.

[ColevilleH2S]

Not to change the subject but I wonder why there are 240 soybean varieties with novel trait up for cancellation?

https://www.inspection.gc.ca/plant-varieties/variety-registration/registered-varieties-and-cancellations/registration-cancellations/eng/1410971290935/1410971291748 https://www.inspection.gc.ca/plant-varieties/variety-registration/registered-varieties-and-cancellations/registration-cancellations/eng/1410971290935/1410971291748

What the h€ll?

I picture the soup guy saying, No traits for you!

[tweety]

Good for us lazy farmers to see our resident farm policy expert hard at work shaming us.

There have been dozens of varieties that have come off patent and into farmers hands for us only for the govt to succumb to big lobbying and get them deregistered. A few yrs ago you could plant an off patent canola variety until the big companies strong armed all the guys who held it and they quickly dumped their supply.

Takes more than just development of something in your basement with the local university egghead to get it to market.

Why havent US farmers developed their own corn and soy seed. The US wheat crop is insignificant compared to those crops so I guess Monsanto doesnt care if farmers flirt with some university.

Wonder if Tweety heard of Triffid before? Thats the first thing that would happen if farmers developed their own supply. Gezus they dont even want Nexera mixed with anything else or they reject entire entire loads.

Lentils were almost exclusively bred and develop here by farmers and the UofS team. they were successful in getting the varieties adapted and for a while it was gangbusters, but what did they miss? A functional herbicide to go along with it. Thats where the big boys stepped back in, didnt take over the seed supply, but developed the only working chemical for it and charge big money for it and reglone to boot. So your seed is free, but your chemical is $40 an acre.

Unless farmers are supposed to start their own chem plants too? Why not fertilizer. Hell why not our own machine line.

Farmers can make millions of dollars in owning the stocks of these parasites, not trying to out compete them.

Once again you show your complete lack of knowledge in every subject.

In this case, the difference between events, germplasm and varieties.

Like I said, farmers in Canada completely lack the ability to make positive change but excel at complaining about the situation. With your post, it confirms this 100%. Good luck loser.

This is a timely opportunity, be sure to throw it all away like everything else.