Pumped Hydro Storage For Solar and Wind

[dmlfarmer]

Af5, you are ignoring the point I am making. I responded to Hamloc statement regarding the loss of land due to solar installations. The point I was trying to make is hydro, which most on the forum support also utiizes land some of which may be used for cropping, grazing or even forestry. Keephills is the largest open surface mine in Canada and has permitted over 12000 ha for coal mining to provide electrical power. Coal is not renewable, and at keephills has utilized land, some of which had agricultural potential.

Do you agree with opening the eastern slopes of the Rockies for coal mining? Some of that land has been used for generations for ranching. And that coal is not even generating power, it only provides a low royalty payment.

the fact is resource extraction also uses land, just as renewables do and if someone like Hamloc thinks a valid arguement against solar is to measure MW/acre, then it is fair game to look at the land cost for conventional electrical production including coal and hydro

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yes, I wholeheartedly support coal mining on the eastern slopes. Regardless of what energy supply we use in the future, it will require metallurgical coal in copious quantities for infrastructure. The world is far better off having in mine in a first world country with very strict environmental and safety regulations, Compared to all of the alternative locations.

What does metallurgical coal have to do with the footprint Hydro electric versus solar?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

No one immune to the either or club.
Your "side" can get way out there sometimes too chuck.

And really funny part about that, Is that every time I offer a balanced perspective such as earlier in this thread, Chuck Always notices that and chastises me for it, Then a couple of posts later repeats the same old baseless claim About us being all or nothing.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

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No, that's not how it works with these folks, more like this:

Then move on to oh, look, a squirrel, or in this case, oh look, a metallurgical coal mine...