Farmers in Canada will get no Credit for what they did to help the climate up to 2017

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Alberta and chuck you two are hilarious.

They already pay farmers in Iowa 67 Canadian a acre for carbon capture by farmers for Cargill.

Your dollar a acre is insane.

Chuck I wanted better land less fuel and a simpler way and yea carbon credits when a idiot like your buddy Trudeau rode into town on his unicorn.

Why can’t farmers ever get paid for what they do?

Simple question chuck and Alberta and horse kiss my ass

$1 an acre may be insane, but that is what it works out to in my pocket with the Alberta program which is coming to an end. A lot of other pockets being filled in between I'm sure.

Thats the reality, not my opinion.

I'm not quite certain what you are disagreeing with me about. Do you really think anyone is doing no till the save the world from having slightly elevated levels of beneficial plant food, also known as CO2? It's an economic decision, and the credits would have to be massive to convince anyone to convert to no till whose isn't already.

I'll happily cash the cheque for $67/acre for doing exactly nothing different than I do now, if it is available.

[Horse]

Been doing a little reading on carbon sequestration,seems there are as many differing opinions on no till as there are on climate change. Not many agree except for erosion control, moisture retention ,more carbon on surface less at deeper zones , some soils work better than others. The debate will go on forever as no one will concede others have valid opinions also.
To sask When my life is over and my time has come to pass I wish to be buried upside down so the world may kiss my ass.

[SASKFARMER]

Oh so creative Horse to bad your posts weren’t better.

Alberta i was just saying we have been at this game almost 40 years and deep down I knew Trudeau would **** this up also.

A dollar a acre isn’t worth my time.

One thing I know if all the land in Saskatchewan was owned by slimy liberals we would be getting the $67 an acre.

I will burn every field black this fall or work them just to prove a point. It’s a joke.

Then cry like a liberal I found the light pay me please.

[blackpowder]

Someone needs a Snickers.
A buck an acre is well worth the zero time it takes me.
However, I agree that as an industry we aren't getting a cent from the false economy.

[bucket]

I wonder when Ralph will get some more opinion space on his ideas on this...

Don't think he mentioned paying farmers for their sequestration efforts in his last WP musings.

[SASKFARMER]

Boys all I am saying we are the only industry that does so much for the environment and yet were shit on by Ottawa. Do you think SNC Javelin is doing anything on Carbon. No. But i bet if you check they will get more than all the farmers in Canada.

Come on all I'm trying to show is farmers got ****ed on this file for being innovators. We are taken advantage of because of the comments above.

A dollar an acre is a ****ing joke. PERIOD.

When a grain company we sell to in Canada makes deals with USA farmers for the same thing we do here and we are offered a dollar an acre and they get $67. But the leftists think it's all about stopping larger farms from getting more than them.

Our industry is dead with stupid ideas and comments like above.

[bucket]

Our industry is dead with stupid ideas and comments like above.

Our industry is dead because we have zero voice even though we are charged 50million in Saskatchewan alone for some sort of representation.

There was a carbon credit resolution put in front of Saskpulse in January 2020 and again in 2021 for all checkoff commissions. By that resolution it should have made it to the national organizations to get in front of what the federal government was thinking.

It so weird to listen to farm group reps say they are talking to the government at all levels...Well someone isn't listening and the other isn't talking...both speak volumes as to their incompetence...


Here is more from Erin Gowriluk from GGC in an email.....

"""""And maybe finally just with respect to your comments around grain prices and the rising costs facing Canadian farmers. I want to assure you that I’m every conversation that we have with government officials, we are highlighting the increased pressures that Canadian farmers are facing with rising input costs. That’s always been a part of our narrative around why the carbon tax is just yet another cost that Canadian farmers simply cannot afford to bear. """"

Just absolute bullshit that farm groups are doing anything when we have a so called carbon offset program announced with zero chance of it doing anything for farmers.


If they were talking to government officials maybe they should have mentioned the offset program is bullshit and to come back with a better plan...

[jazz]

Our industry is dead with stupid ideas and comments like above.

There is no way to get through to this govt and thats a feature not a bug.

But maybe you are already on to the solution. Protill it all down this fall and restart the baseline. Soil test every yr and track it.

Play the carbon game and sell offsets privately. If people will pay for bitcoin and digital art, they are just stupid enough to pay for imaginary environmental credits too. And a big place like yours could make bank.

[chuckChuck]

One of the reasons farmers don't have more traction on this issue is that a large percentage of them dismiss climate change as an issue and deny the overwhelming scientific evidence.

It's very hard to be taken seriously when on one hand you argue increasing CO2 is good for the planet and human caused climate is not a problem. And then argue that farmers should be paid well for storing carbon for a non existent problem.

So good luck trying to find advocates to support the idea that farmers should be paid significantly more for carbon credits when you don't agree there is a problem.

[bucket]

One of the reasons farmers don't have more traction on this issue is that a large percentage of them dismiss climate change as an issue and deny the overwhelming scientific evidence.

It's very hard to be taken seriously when on one hand you argue increasing CO2 is good for the planet and human caused climate is not a problem. And then argue that farmers should be paid well for storing carbon for a non existent problem.

So good luck trying to find advocates to support the idea that farmers should be paid significantly more for carbon credits when you don't agree there is a problem.

The science has been done on both emissions and sequestering. The fact is the government wants a tax on emissions and not pay on sequestering.

But I ask again because its the one study not done by anyone...where is the scientific evidence that the reduction of engine hours per acre has reduced emissions .....more than all the tier engine improvements combined by probably tenfold.

[jazz]

Govt and fake scientists rebaseline climate scams all the time to sell the doom. Like deleting 100 yrs of temp records or using an arbitrary baseline of 1981-2019 to measure against. They make shit up all the time and sell it to the public. Look at covid. The public are just a bunch of non critical pablum swallowers. They want to be told what to do and think. So let them think they are saving the planet.

Bundle up your soil samples showing the carbon sequestration for the season and sell it to people as an annual carbon subscription. Print out a fake certificate for them. It isnt fing real but its the perception that people want to buy. Christ people pay $50 a yr just to get in the doors at costco.

We dont need the govt but they have already set the prices for carbon for us and will continue to do so in the future. Everybody is in on the carbon scam. Canada is a place to make bank on this. US farmers cant because they have to plow down corn stubble every yr.

[bucket]

Govt and fake scientists rebaseline climate scams all the time to sell the doom. Like deleting 100 yrs of temp records or using an arbitrary baseline of 1981-2019 to measure against. They make shit up all the time and sell it to the public. Look at covid. The public are just a bunch of non critical pablum swallowers. They want to be told what to do and think. So let them think they are saving the planet.

Bundle up your soil samples showing the carbon sequestration for the season and sell it to people as an annual carbon subscription. Print out a fake certificate for them. It isnt fing real but its the perception that people want to buy. Christ people pay $50 a yr just to get in the doors at costco.

We dont need the govt but they have already set the prices for carbon for us and will continue to do so in the future. Everybody is in on the carbon scam. Canada is a place to make bank on this. US farmers cant because they have to plow down corn stubble every yr.

Tom Vilsack has some sort of carbon plan at the top of his to do list?