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    #13
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    I suggest anyone interested in Vander Bossche theory read Vander Bossche actual hypothesis rather than interviews and posting by people twisting Vander Bossche's postion to support their own biases. His actual paper can be found here:
    https://mcusercontent.com/92561d6dedb66a43fe9a6548f/files/0121a525-0daf-4792-9b08-ac750577b3d4/Scientific_Evidence_final.pdf https://mcusercontent.com/92561d6dedb66a43fe9a6548f/files/0121a525-0daf-4792-9b08-ac750577b3d4/Scientific_Evidence_final.pdf

    Second, so many people are distorting Vander Bossche's thoughts on the covid vaccines, he posted the following message on twitter yesterday: [ATTACH]7648[/ATTACH]

    I posted the video interview of Vander for people to make their own conclusions. How is that twisting Vander's position? It's simple watch the video if you are limited for time watch the last 1/4 of the video, listen carefully to what Vander says and make up your own mind. Sure read the paper you posted as well. It's the same message stop the vaccinations. This message isn't coming from some 'anti vaxxer' just the opposite.
    Last edited by biglentil; Mar 13, 2021, 13:51.

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      #14
      Originally posted by biglentil View Post
      I posted the video interview of Vander for people to make their own conclusions. How is that twisting Vander's position? It's simple watch the video if you are limited for time watch the last 1/4 of the video, listen carefully to what Vander says and make up your own mind. Sure read the paper you posted as well. It's the same message stop the vaccinations. This message isn't coming from some 'anti vaxxer' just the opposite.
      13,000 bad scientists – WTF do they know?

      Jay Bhattacharya, a professor at Stanford University Medical School, recently said that COVID-19 lockdowns are the "biggest public health mistake we've ever made...The harm to people is catastrophic." Several U.S. states have started to ease their COVID-19 restrictions over the past few weeks. Bhattacharya, who made the comments during an interview with the Daily Clout, co-authored the Great Barrington Declaration, a petition that calls for the end of COVID-19 lockdowns, claiming that they are "producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health." As of Monday, the Great Barrington Declaration has received signatures from over 13,000 medical and public health scientists, more than 41,000 medical practitioners and at least 754,399 "concerned citizens."

      https://www.newsweek.com/stanford-doctor-calls-lockdowns-biggest-public-health-mistake-weve-ever-made-1574540

      11,000 good scientists – WTF is wrong with you people?

      The world’s people face “untold suffering due to the climate crisis” unless there are major transformations to global society, according to a stark warning from more than 11,000 scientists. “We declare clearly and unequivocally that planet Earth is facing a climate emergency,” it states. “To secure a sustainable future, we must change how we live. [This] entails major transformations in the ways our global society functions and interacts with natural ecosystems.” There is no time to lose, the scientists say: “The climate crisis has arrived and is accelerating faster than most scientists expected. It is more severe than anticipated, threatening natural ecosystems and the fate of humanity.” The statement is published in the journal BioScience on the 40th anniversary of the first world climate conference, which was held in Geneva in 1979. The statement was a collaboration of dozens of scientists and endorsed by further 11,000 from 153 nations. The scientists say the urgent changes needed include ending population growth, leaving fossil fuels in the ground, halting forest destruction and slashing meat eating.

      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/05/climate-crisis-11000-scientists-warn-of-untold-suffering

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        #15
        Yes, we could take a lesson from Brazil ,what could go wrong?

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          #16
          i think one is wise to weigh your odds of death or serious consequences from Covid infection versus possibility of lasting ill effects from an unproven , kinda vaccine.

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            #17
            WHY? WHY?

            Best questions I have seen....

            1. If the PCR test works — Why the false positives?
            2. If the masks works — why the six feet?
            3. If the six feet works — Why the masks?
            4. If all three works - Why the social distancing?
            5. If all four work — Why the Lockdown?
            6. If all five work — Why the vaccine?
            7. If the vaccine works - Why do people care if I will get one or not? (They can't get it from anyone if vaccine works)
            8. If the vaccine is safe — Why the no liability clause from BIG PHARMA side?
            9. If the PCR test works - Why Kary Banks Mullis (creator of PCR method) said: "PCR tests CAN'T be used to determine if someone is positive or negative in a matter of ANY virus."
            10. If Kary Banks Mullis was not a threat to their agenda - Why did he and his assistant die in unexplained circumstances few months before world heard about CONvid-1984?
            11. If CONvid-1984 exists — why has it not been isolated according to CDC?
            12. If there is no conspiracy - Why the media, governments and oligarchs of this world are trying to vaccinate the WHOLE WORLD?

            And Blessed Fauci gets GRILLED...
            https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1370188597366784003.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1370188597366784003.html

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              #18
              It is a world-scale experiment.

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                #19
                The UK has 36% of its population with one shot as of today. Looking at their age demos, thats just about everyone 50 and older.

                They still had 121 deaths yesterday and 52 today.

                See what those numbers look like in a months time to see if this is really having the desired effects.

                My parents are eligible here in sask but are probably electing to wait until fall until more data shakes out. They are worried Trudeau will give all our vaccines away to the 3rd world. Dad had the flu shot a few yrs back and had a pretty rough winter after getting it. They dont want to take any chances at their ages.

                10 countries have suspended the AZ vaccine today. Blood clots.

                One yr wait for a traditional vaccine; https://globalnews.ca/video/7693788/vido-intervac-takes-steps-forward-in-covid-19-vaccine-clinical-trials
                Last edited by jazz; Mar 14, 2021, 19:24.

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by Partners View Post
                  On Regina news.
                  Care home where all were vaxed has lots of variants now..??
                  Parents in LTC both shots, still can't visit.
                  Email from Moe's office no you can't visit them.
                  These bullshit vaxes are causing the variants..
                  I think you are correct. Trudeau slipped up and said there are new variants being developed

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
                    I think you are correct. Trudeau slipped up and said there are new variants being developed
                    Now governments are backing away from using Astra Zeneca vaccine.
                    Several countries in Europe have already suspended AZ vaccination programs because they suspect it is causing blood clots.
                    Canada now reconsidering AZ vaccinations as well.
                    What a colossal ****up.
                    Meanwhile, percentage of Canadian that have died from COVID is 0.059 percent. That's about one person in every 16 or 17,000. By comparison, chance of getting struck by lightning is about 1 in 500,000 (significantly less if you stay inside during an electrical storm)

                    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-one-year-from-canadas-first-covid-19-deaths-what-do-the-numbers-tell/

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by HITTG****vine View Post
                      Now governments are backing away from using Astra Zeneca vaccine.
                      Several countries in Europe have already suspended AZ vaccination programs because they suspect it is causing blood clots.
                      Canada now reconsidering AZ vaccinations as well.
                      What a colossal ****up.
                      Meanwhile, percentage of Canadian that have died from COVID is 0.059 percent. That's about one person in every 16 or 17,000. By comparison, chance of getting struck by lightning is about 1 in 500,000 (significantly less if you stay inside during an electrical storm)

                      https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-one-year-from-canadas-first-covid-19-deaths-what-do-the-numbers-tell/
                      You might want to check you math. 0.059% is 1 in 1,680. And what value is the percentage of deaths to population anyway? Not every one in Canada has contracted Covid therefore 0.059% is not reflective of how deadly the disease is. And because people wore masks, and social distanced and the lockdowns this percentage is likely much lower than had no action been taken. (Like staying inside during lightening storms - if you don't get hit by lightening you wont be killed by it just as if you dont catch Covid you wont become ill or die from it)

                      If on the other hand you compared deaths to cases the percentage is much higher. As of March 15th there were 22,463 deaths attributed to Covid from 909,157 confirmed cases or a death to case percentage of 2.4% That is a death rate of 1 in every 40 people who are known to have contacted Covid. Now that percentage is worrisome and the reason governments imposed restrictions.

                      Granted there are asymptomatic cases so the real case number is higher but we do not know how much higher? Is it double? Could be, in which case the death per case falls to 1 in 80 people that have contracted the disease. Is this an acceptable risk? Furthermore, very few young and healthy people die so the percentages vary by age groups.

                      By the same token, Every year about 2900 people are killed in car accidents in Canada. As a percent of the population that is only 0.0076% or 1 in 13,000 will be killed in a car accident. But if you are in one of the 160,000 car accidents that happen each year the odds of being killed in a car accident jump to 1 in 55 (1.8%) So the government imposed speed limits, rules of the road, we are forced to wear seat belts, we are not allowed to drink an drive to prevent accidents from happening in the first place
                      Last edited by dmlfarmer; Mar 15, 2021, 17:05.

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                        #23
                        Bet 30% or 10,000,000 have had this crap! therefore one in 800 is good old FLU! Immune, think me, DONOT need this risky gene therapy in our bodies!

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                          #24
                          If Mrna vaccines suppress the bodies reaction to the virus, are you not basically turned into a giant cauldron of virus? How does your body end up with no virus, with no immune response? Are you now a super spreader that just carries that nasty bug around for the rest of your life? Inquiring minds want to know. And do viruses mutate inside or outside of the body? Because my line of thought says if it mutates inside and you can't eventually get rid of it, it'll be like plugging loonies and twoonies into big pharma eventually, which might explain why a person will need more then a booster as they are claiming. Just some thoughts after reading his 5 page letter. Govt pays for first round then it's endless royalties if you want to live?

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