Supreme Court rules Ottawa's carbon tax is constitutional

[dmlfarmer]

SCC has violated the constitution and is now a corrupt institution more concerned with political posturing than real legal arguments. Another institution destroyed by Trudeau et al.

The SCC didnt even bother to look at the arguments regarding climate change, the just swallowed the govt line. And somehow it took these retards 6 months to render this decision.

Now the feds can insert themselves into any provincial matter because these SCC idiots have set a precedent.

I need a laugh this morning so please Jazz explain how the SCC violated the constitution when the SCC is the body which interprets the constitution.

Second, the court case was on the constitutionality of the imposition of federal carbon pricing, not to determine if climate change is real so why would the SCC look at the arguments about climate change?

Third, you are also ignoring the fact that before this case reached the SCC by a "3-2 majority at the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal said the Act was a valid use of federal legislative jurisdiction. A 4-1 majority at the Ontario Court of Appeal reached the same conclusion in June of 2019. However, in February of 2020, four of five Alberta Court of Appeal judges found the Act to be unconstitutional on the grounds that it exceeded federal jurisdiction." https://www.osler.com/en/resources/regulations/2021/the-supreme-court-of-canada-upholds-the-constitutionality-of-federal-carbon-pricing-legislation https://www.osler.com/en/resources/regulations/2021/the-supreme-court-of-canada-upholds-the-constitutionality-of-federal-carbon-pricing-legislation
So in fact the highest courts in Saskatchewan and Ontario had previously reached the same conclusion as the SCC reached.

On and by the way, blaming this on Trudeau when 6 of the 9 judges are Harper appointees is hilarious.

[dmlfarmer]

SCC has violated the constitution and is now a corrupt institution more concerned with political posturing than real legal arguments. Another institution destroyed by Trudeau et al.

The SCC didnt even bother to look at the arguments regarding climate change, the just swallowed the govt line. And somehow it took these retards 6 months to render this decision.

Now the feds can insert themselves into any provincial matter because these SCC idiots have set a precedent.

I need a laugh this morning so please Jazz explain how the SCC violated the constitution when the SCC is the body which interprets the constitution.

Second, the court case was on the constitutionality of the imposition of federal carbon pricing, not to determine if climate change is real so why would the SCC look at the arguments about climate change?

Third, you are also ignoring the fact that before this case reached the SCC by a "3-2 majority at the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal said the Act was a valid use of federal legislative jurisdiction. A 4-1 majority at the Ontario Court of Appeal reached the same conclusion in June of 2019. However, in February of 2020, four of five Alberta Court of Appeal judges found the Act to be unconstitutional on the grounds that it exceeded federal jurisdiction." https://www.osler.com/en/resources/regulations/2021/the-supreme-court-of-canada-upholds-the-constitutionality-of-federal-carbon-pricing-legislation https://www.osler.com/en/resources/regulations/2021/the-supreme-court-of-canada-upholds-the-constitutionality-of-federal-carbon-pricing-legislation
So in fact the highest courts in Saskatchewan and Ontario had previously reached the same conclusion as the SCC reached.

On and by the way, blaming this court decision on Trudeau when 6 of the 9 judges are Harper appointees is hilarious.

[jazz]

The SCC violated the constitution because it allowed a tax to be unevenly applied across the country. By using 200 pages of weasel words, they somehow argued that carbon tax is not a tax to get around that.

So now any tax can be referred to as a pricing mechanism and applied differently in each province. So that means Trudeau can make up some more of these. Maybe a covid health adjustment is next, or a nitrogen pricing mechanism.

He just ended the confederation by nuking provincial jurisdiction.

You guys should have done a few online law courses while you were in lockdown.

[SASKFARMER]

Chuck, it's fun to paste and tell the Liberal side.

Admit you want us to all live off the grid and farm 160 acres and have chickens and pigs and a few cows and live as our grandfathers did back in the 1900s.


This whole thing does **** all on the world stage.

Canada is like 2% vs world but we have the second-largest landmass.

Were frozen 6 months of the year.

Come on just take your liberal check and call it a day.

[chuckChuck]

Jazz now a constitutional and tax expert!

Previously a covid "expert".

Soon to be appointed to the SCC? Which could stand for Suckers Club Canada.

[chuckChuck]

Chuck, it's fun to paste and tell the Liberal side.

Admit you want us to all live off the grid and farm 160 acres and have chickens and pigs and a few cows and live as our grandfathers did back in the 1900s.


This whole thing does **** all on the world stage.

Canada is like 2% vs world but we have the second-largest landmass.

Were frozen 6 months of the year.

Come on just take your liberal check and call it a day.

Hey its Friday! No sorry Saturday. Fix yourself another drink and have some fun.

[jazz]

Jazz now a constitutional and tax expert!

Previously a covid "expert".

Soon to be appointed to the SCC? Which could stand for Suckers Club Canada.

You know when the left has to resort to insult they have already lost. Isnt it time to slink away chuck?

My argument is sound. The constitution guiding premise is equal application of the law. Trudeau just turned it into toilet paper. This is the same thing as giving Quebec a 35% effective tax rate and Alberta a 36% effective tax rate. No different and its a violation of our founding principle.

SCC just became as irrelevant as our Senate.

[dmlfarmer]

The SCC violated the constitution because it allowed a tax to be unevenly applied across the country. By using 200 pages of weasel words, they somehow argued that carbon tax is not a tax to get around that.

So now any tax can be referred to as a pricing mechanism and applied differently in each province. So that means Trudeau can make up some more of these. Maybe a covid health adjustment is next, or a nitrogen pricing mechanism.

He just ended the confederation by nuking provincial jurisdiction.

You guys should have done a few online law courses while you were in lockdown.

Thanks Jazz, you actually made me laugh out loud. Love your suggestion that a few online law courses will make you a constitutional expert and smarter than the 9 SCC judges who have studied and practiced law all their lives or the court of appeal judges in Sask, Ont, and AB, a majority of whom also came to the same conclusion as the SCC decision.. To actually believe you know more about constitutional law than the 9 SCC judges and they are wrong in their interpretation of the constitution but you are right. No proof of that claim, only your decision. Did you get your law degree from Trump university by chance?

[jazz]

The difference is dml, I am not politically tainted like our judiciary has been.

I see you have no rebuttal to my argument. Is equal application of the law not a founding principle or our constitution?

We now have 3 programs in violation of that principle. Carbon Pricing, Equalization and CPP. All gamed against one part of the country for the benefit of another by tinkering with wording and formulas.

[dmlfarmer]

You know when the left has to resort to insult they have already lost. Isnt it time to slink away chuck?

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What is it called when the right has to resort to insults and when do you slink away given these insults you shared in this thread?

Jazz post 30: SCC has violated the constitution and is now a corrupt institution more concerned with political posturing than real legal arguments. Another institution destroyed by Trudeau et al.

The SCC didnt even bother to look at the arguments regarding climate change, the just swallowed the govt line. And somehow it took these retards 6 months to render this decision.

Now the feds can insert themselves into any provincial matter because these SCC idiots have set a precedent.