Why is Covid political?

[macdon02]

There was no way of launching the climate change agenda without covid, they needed a reason to ban travel, that was socially acceptable, fear, so they could assault the oil industry. They need small business dead, because if your next meal doesn't come from govt you won't follow, the masks and vaccines are to show your commitment to the cause. And we have been pitting everyone against each other through immigration and not implementing a policy that you had to take on the Canadian identity like our forefathers did through language and religion on entry. Cancel culture, forget your Canadian heritage, keep the old country. We are living in Babel. Did nobody read history? Oh they don't teach that, only white man bad. The liberals and conservatives will fracture, just like the dems are in the US. There's not that many AOC's, half ~ of them are reasonable, the same with the republicans, there's corruption in both parties, in both countries. Half ~ are power mongers the rest, jrs, had and still remember honest intentions, but they are extremely low on the totem pole, so they get threatened to follow and don't speak up. It's a mess, and until someone flips the tables, nothing changes. There's evil in govt, recognize it. Term limits?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

There was no way of launching the climate change agenda without covid, they needed a reason to ban travel, that was socially acceptable, fear, so they could assault the oil industry. They need small business dead, because if your next meal doesn't come from govt you won't follow, the masks and vaccines are to show your commitment to the cause. And we have been pitting everyone against each other through immigration and not implementing a policy that you had to take on the Canadian identity like our forefathers did through language and religion on entry. Cancel culture, forget your Canadian heritage, keep the old country. We are living in Babel. Did nobody read history? Oh they don't teach that, only white man bad. The liberals and conservatives will fracture, just like the dems are in the US. There's not that many AOC's, half ~ of them are reasonable, the same with the republicans, there's corruption in both parties, in both countries. Half ~ are power mongers the rest, jrs, had and still remember honest intentions, but they are extremely low on the totem pole, so they get threatened to follow and don't speak up. It's a mess, and until someone flips the tables, nothing changes. There's evil in govt, recognize it. Term limits?

This is a perfect example. I can't argue with anything you wrote in this post. I know you are a very smart guy, well connected with your finger on the pulse of these things. I know you aren't some crazy conspiracy theorist.
As you have connected the dots, the logical conclusion to make is that Covid is being used as a convenient excuse to bring in a lot of very bad policies.

But all of that being true still doesn't mean that Covid is a hoax or a scam, or that Bill Gates is trying to microchip( or kill, or sterilize) all of us with a vaccine, or that social distancing doesn't reduce the spread of viruses etc etc.

And that is what the true believers fail to grasp. They gave thinking people the reason to doubt their intentions, and they set the stage for conspiracies, when they didn't draw a clear line between what is a genuine health risk to certain people, and the crazies who want to remake society in their socialist/environmentalist image.
If anyone actually takes the pandemic seriously, then you need to stand up to, and denounce those who are taking advantage of this to advance their agendas.
By failing to do so, they have lost all credibility.

[burnt]

This is a perfect example. I can't argue with anything you wrote in this post. I know you are a very smart guy, well connected with your finger on the pulse of these things. I know you aren't some crazy conspiracy theorist.
As you have connected the dots, the logical conclusion to make is that Covid is being used as a convenient excuse to bring in a lot of very bad policies.

But all of that being true still doesn't mean that Covid is a hoax or a scam, or that Bill Gates is trying to microchip( or kill, or sterilize) all of us with a vaccine, or that social distancing doesn't reduce the spread of viruses etc etc.

And that is what the true believers fail to grasp. They gave thinking people the reason to doubt their intentions, and they set the stage for conspiracies, when they didn't draw a clear line between what is a genuine health risk to certain people, and the crazies who want to remake society in their socialist/environmentalist image.
If anyone actually takes the pandemic seriously, then you need to stand up to, and denounce those who are taking advantage of this to advance their agendas.
By failing to do so, they have lost all credibility.

Yes?

And you cannot help but see what happens to those who do stand up and say the very things you suggest.

And the most destructive part is that the only ones who get a platform are the "crazies" who are using this Operation Covid to reshape society into their own demented illusory utopia-cum-dystopia.

Good luck, Albertafarmer5, with getting your message out.

Doug Ford just disregarded the evidence-based collective advice and voice of thousands of health care professionals and put us back into lock down.

So much for science and reason.

Oh, but it's not a scam.

Give your head a shake, man.

[GDR]

Burnt's quote:


"Doug Ford just disregarded the evidence-based collective advice and voice of thousands of health care professionals and put us back into lock down."

Is this the health professionals advice you talk about?

[jazz]

Is this the health professionals advice you talk about?

Ask those same doctors if they will donate an equal amount of their salary to the people affected by the lock down.

Bet that letter gets rewritten pretty fast.

Maybe they can send a letter to Trudeau for more health care money instead of Africa donations.

Dont think for a moment that doctors dont have political bias as well. Many of them are devout socialist hypocrites living in $5M houses.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Burnt's quote:


"Doug Ford just disregarded the evidence-based collective advice and voice of thousands of health care professionals and put us back into lock down."

Is this the health professionals advice you talk about?

Exactly.
And it is unconscionable that people, politicians and organizations are using these deaths and tragedies to make this political, to further their radical agenda.

The blood is on their hands, not the people who are pushing back against remaking society.

[Jordy2323]

They don't even give reasons for repeated lockdowns anymore.
But they will say this most recent lockdown is responsible for curbing what is just another minor seasonal spike. Knowing all along when they can predict spikes ahead of time.

[GDR]

Jazz, perhaps, but my point is there is just constant outright incorrect information put out over and over by the anti covid crowd.

Neither Burnt, nor you or I are qualified or informed enough to make public health decisions. I completely agree doctors as a group have a biased opinion, but suspect even with that still better advice than a bunch of agriville farmers.

I'm very neutral on covid, believe it's real, wear a mask, dont kiss strangers on the street, will get vaccinated but havent let it control my life. But the constant lies and BS, mostly from the anti-covid side is much more tiring than the pandemic problems itself.

[beaverdam]

There was no way of launching the climate change agenda without covid, they needed a reason to ban travel, that was socially acceptable, fear, so they could assault the oil industry. They need small business dead, because if your next meal doesn't come from govt you won't follow, the masks and vaccines are to show your commitment to the cause. And we have been pitting everyone against each other through immigration and not implementing a policy that you had to take on the Canadian identity like our forefathers did through language and religion on entry. Cancel culture, forget your Canadian heritage, keep the old country. We are living in Babel. Did nobody read history? Oh they don't teach that, only white man bad. The liberals and conservatives will fracture, just like the dems are in the US. There's not that many AOC's, half ~ of them are reasonable, the same with the republicans, there's corruption in both parties, in both countries. Half ~ are power mongers the rest, jrs, had and still remember honest intentions, but they are extremely low on the totem pole, so they get threatened to follow and don't speak up. It's a mess, and until someone flips the tables, nothing changes. There's evil in govt, recognize it. Term limits?

Watch Chris Cuomo's guest, pull back the curtain, for just a minute or two,,, there is a much bigger plan in the works, and 99% of the population on the globe, aren't part of it. Actually they are part of it,,, they just don't know it.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1377754360218783745 https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1377754360218783745

[Partners]

Regardless which side of the covid fence you stand..
Where are we after 14 months?
Is there a end in site?
Darn lucky most of us can isolate on our farms soon..
Bring on spring and those tractor hrs with the sound of silence and the radio shut off..

[jazz]

That article that AE posted a few days ago, where they vaccinated a bunch of nursing home residents and then proceeded to lock them down again. That doesnt make you think a little at all. Maybe its incompetence.

But I blast the politicians for coming up with this we are all in this together garbage when clearly we are not. Some people have lost everything, other barely noticed. And the ones who barely noticed shouldnt get to influence policy for those who were harmed. maybe those doctors need a little brush up on the hypocratic oath.

And then like AF says, in the middle of this to do some political posturing about build back better and all that and nobody calls them out on it, its disgusting.

And I am tired of the media making doctors and nurses out to be some gods, like they are so critical. Sure they are, but somebody put the power back on after these winter storms and an another group is working hard to make sure there isnt a ***** famine after this idiocy. Not a peep about them. Lettuce pickers are farmers to the MSM in this country.

[beaverdam]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-cdc-vaccinated-travel-low-risk-1.5974372 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-cdc-vaccinated-travel-low-risk-1.5974372


"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say fully vaccinated people can travel within the U.S. without getting tested for the coronavirus or going into quarantine afterward."

The only requirement is you must wear a mask.

Sooooooo, in Canada they tell us the vaccine doesn't protect against variants of Covid, yet CDC now saying you can fly domestically and internationally??? What no concerns about the variants in the U.S.???

Also in Canada they tell us people who were vaccinated can still spread Covid and the variants, but now the CDC doesn't seem concerned about people vaccinated???

[foragefarmer]

You'd figure that on Good Friday the Sensationalizer would make an honest attempt to post something remotely factual, rather than the Fake News he fines on Facebook or Twitter.

He get's a 2nd chance in two days to surprises us all.

[fjlip]

And is this fact of fiction? I HATE the smell/feel of using Med Masks!

Chemical cocktail found in face masks

https://www.ecotextile.com/2021040127603/dyes-chemicals-news/exclusive-chemical-cocktail-found-in-face-masks.html?fbclid=IwAR0CWnkaygZMV4Bj3KWS2f2oV9NbyY Y2XTLjeQE40P4xV4zfJOrZbzjORe4 https://www.ecotextile.com/2021040127603/dyes-chemicals-news/exclusive-chemical-cocktail-found-in-face-masks.html?fbclid=IwAR0CWnkaygZMV4Bj3KWS2f2oV9NbyY Y2XTLjeQE40P4xV4zfJOrZbzjORe4

[burnt]

Now it’s discovered some masks are somewhat toxic a year+ into Covid.

I’m wouldn’t bet against something coming out about the vaccine a year down the road.

You all go ahead and trust the system, I’ll stay skeptical until proven otherwise.

And now, a second known health threat from masks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/masks-early-pulmonary-toxicity-quebec-schools-daycares-1.5966387 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/masks-early-pulmonary-toxicity-quebec-schools-daycares-1.5966387

These were distributed only in Quebec?

"Potentially toxic masks distributed in schools and daycares in Quebec"

Can anyone imagine the fear and horror that parents are facing now that they realize that the government mandate has put their child's well-being at a proven risk? Can anyone imagine the lawsuits that will follow? Think asbestos.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you". "Trust me". "The jab will save you." (circumvented testing and approval, irreversible effects)

What would the response be if you asked your mask supplier/source to guarantee that the product they are making available to you is not going to cause long-term health issues?

Well, it is going to be interesting to see how badly people's health was compromised by following government directives. Millions upon millions of Canadians coerced into wearing masks to protect against a virus that has a relatively low mortality rate - 2.33% of "total cases*", as per the GOV-CAN doc here -

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

Might the WuFlu be political because the government made it that?

And another flaw in the data - were "total cases" as provided in GOV-CAN data anywhere near an accurate reflection of "real cases"? It appears not -

A local family of 6 recently underwent both the antigen and PCR tests for international travel reasons. All of them tested positive for antibodies, but the PCR test showed no presence of the virus.

They could recall having colds of varying degrees last fall, but none had more than a cough, at the worst.

How many more cases like this are there? Easily hundreds of thousands, as community spread was very poorly known and documented.

So how many actual WuFlu infections occurred, but were never reported or included in the case count?

If the actual "case count" was known the actual mortality rate would well drop to a fraction of what is reported.

Who is to say that the drop off in occurrence is not a result of already having reached herd immunity?

Just follow the money - masks, "vaccines".... How much of it trickles back to the Trudeau Foundation?