Your money or your life? Scott Moe's tragic miscalculation

[jazz]

It was simple.

Do what Taiwan did right from the start.

Thats still an island that is hostile and doesnt trade with its nearest neighbor. Has very little bearing on a place like canada getting international stop over flights and totally intertwined with the largest economy on the planet. Certainly those measures would help but i doubt we would replicate their success.

The home test kits would have been a big help. mail them to everyone, tell anyone who tests positive to stay put and then test again in 2 weeks. Even the huge error rate in the testing would have been helpful because it would have kept more people home who might have had a false positive.

[sumdumguy]

International airports welcomed flight after flight of ‘guests’ from affected locations- TY Feds, now lock us up and blame us, hell of an idea!

[edl]

BS Chuck

[Guest]

This is interesting. Canadian exceptionalism takes a hit.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-could-soon-surpass-u-s-in-number-of-covid-cases-relative-to-population https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-could-soon-surpass-u-s-in-number-of-covid-cases-relative-to-population

"In another blow to Canada’s psyche, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States, in an April 2 update, says Canada’s COVID-19 rate is “very high” — the highest level ranked — and urges Americans against travel to Canada, specifically citing the number of variant cases in the country."

Before anyone jumps to the knee-jerk conclusion that the solution to this must always be tougher lockdowns, the correlation between severity of lockdown and declining Covid cases is falling apart before our eyes. It's time to reassess the models, folks. They just don't fit reality.

All of a sudden , models aren't important

[Guest]

chuck , you really need to get a different news feed
you are making a fool of yourself , again....
did you actually believe that horseshit you spewed?

[Guest]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/opinion-lewis-muhajarine-neudorf-1.5978305 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/opinion-lewis-muhajarine-neudorf-1.5978305

Your money or your life? Scott Moe's tragic miscalculation

Steven Lewis, Nazeem Muhajarine and Cory Neudorf · For CBC Opinion · Posted: Apr 07, 2021 5:00 PM CT | Last Updated: April 7

This Opinion piece was written by Steven Lewis, a health policy consultant formerly based in Saskatchewan, Nazeem Muhajarine, an epidemiologist and professor at the University of Saskatchewan, and Cory Neudorf, a public health and epidemiology professor at the University of Saskatchewan.

Scott Moe won't budge. There will be no change in his pandemic control strategy, grounded in his belief about how the pandemic affects the economy.

To Moe it is a trade-off: the more you lock down, the greater the economic damage, which causes so much harm that it outweighs the benefit of keeping the virus at bay.

He categorically rejects the measures that kept infection rates, hospitalizations, and deaths low in Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, New Zealand and elsewhere.

Moe's go-to methods are pleading for voluntary behaviour change, implementing as few restrictions as possible as late as possible, and stalling for time until vaccines produce herd immunity. As he said on March 30, "the way through this is vaccines, the way through this is not more public health measures."

If the premier is right that major economic damage is the unacceptable price of a convincing victory over the virus, it becomes a pick-your-poison scenario: your money or your life.

This was an important theoretical debate at the beginning of the pandemic. After more than a year, the evidence to settle it is starting to emerge. It does not support Premier Moe's assumptions.
Looking at the data

An analysis published in Nature at the end of January looked at the relationship between restrictions on mobility in workplaces, the retail sector and recreational facilities (a measure of economic slowdown), and the COVID death rate in 33 highly developed jurisdictions, including Canada and 10 American states.

There's a lot of sophisticated math and method in the analysis, but here are the highlights:

Places that delayed imposing restrictions saw case numbers climb, resulting in more deaths.
Eventually, the alarming numbers forced these places to impose longer and more stringent lockdowns to get the pandemic under control. Over time they disrupted more economic activity than the countries that acted faster and more comprehensively at the beginning.
The longer duration — and stops and starts — caused greater economic loss in the end.

In short, many countries — including most of Canada — created a lose-lose situation where both people and the economy suffered needlessly.

more.....

umm., lockdowns , texas ???
why doesn't it mention trudeaus **** up getting vaccines fro china ?

[beaverdam]

upChuck is a paid troll, here's proof.

From yesterday's Globe and Mail, https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-only-two-thirds-of-canadas-available-covid-19-vaccines-administered/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-only-two-thirds-of-canadas-available-covid-19-vaccines-administered/

regarding the roll out of vaccines supplied to the provinces;

" Among the provinces, Newfoundland and Labrador has the slowest rollout of vaccinations, and as of Tuesday had administered only 54 per cent of available shots, with Manitoba and Nova Scotia tying for second last at 58 per cent, according to tracking by The Globe and Mail. Ontario had administered 63 per cent of its available doses, while Quebec administered 67 per cent. Saskatchewan leads the way at 78 per cent. "

Saskatchewan ranks No.1 in getting vaccine it receives, into the arms of Saskatchewan people.

[Flatlander]

BS chuckchuck

[fjlip]

Double double BS and paid shit disturber CC. Vax yourself

[Guest]

Chuck did you read beaverdams post ????!????

[bobofthenorth]

Saskatchewan has consistently been the best place to live through this China Flu BS if your goal was to live. We have the highest survival rate in Canada and the lowest impediments to living our lives. I'm not putting that all on Scott - we're blessed with a lot of wide open space which has surely helped. But Scott & Dr. Shahab have had the courage to ignore the media experts. I'm always a proud Saskatchewanian but never more so than the last year. Scott also does a pretty good job of regularly calling Skippy out for his (numerous) failures on this file and others.

Something that I find hilarious is that the so-called "leader" of the Dippers is apparently a Doctor. But he might as well be a garbage collector for all the credibility he has had with anyone - the public, the medical community, the media. I hope the Dippers make him Dear Leader for Life.

[parsley]

Everyone knows the virus panic has been hyped. Dragged out. It’s not even technically a pandemic anymore, it’s now scientifically deemed an epidemic.

Q: So why the push to keep it and centre?

A. Vaccine passports.

That’s what communists have been after since DayOne. Vaccine passports.

All your personal data will be owned by communists. And they will use it for coercion. For distributing wealth to those who will spread more communism. For DNA identity. For location. For spying. Blackmail.

And China will be front and center.

Put your foot down, folks.

[Hamloc]

Phoned a neighbour last night, hadn’t talked to him for a few months, turned out he was in Arizona. Him and his wife were apparently spending a month there. I found it interesting that he was able to set up his appointments to be vaccinated before he left Canada. He will receive both Pfizer shots 3 weeks apart while he is there. He also said because the Americans are getting more people vaccinated the daily case counts in Arizona are around 5-600 hundred, Phoenix alone has as many people as Alberta. So he was quite happy to be there. It certainly illustrates how truly incompetent our Canadian government is and yet many people are willing to vote Justin Trudeau back in, hard to fathom from my perspective!!

[chuckChuck]

Governments who had more control over domestic vaccine production have a big advantage. Canada gave up that capacity long ago. But it will be brought back quickly.

In the middle of the largest vaccination campaign in history, you don't think the competition for vaccines might make it hard to get enough vaccines?

Based on the comments some posters would have supported no measures to reduce transmission. That would have been fun.

Our friends in Australia did the exact opposite and knocked the pandemic down and reopened a lot of their economy already. But posters don't want to believe we could have done a better job like Australia.

[Guest]

Yea by stopping international incoming traffic while numb nuts was kissing chinas ass