Your money or your life? Scott Moe's tragic miscalculation

[canolacrazy]

It was simple.

Do what Taiwan did right from the start.

immediately shut down the borders, including airplanes. set up large covid only hospitals in auditoriums or arena's. bring in retired doctors and nurses to help with any surge. if you're mildly ill they made you stay home. if you went to a hospital you were put into surge facilities and kept away from other patients.

Taiwan never closed schools or shut down the economy.

last i checked, they had ten deaths and only 1000 total cases since the start. in a country of 25 million. this isn't hindsight. many were advocating for the taiwan approach as soon as taiwan notified the WHO back in december 2019. WHO covered for china, and trudeau wouldn't go against WHO. remember, he's the one who said shutting down flights from china was a racist thing to do. even though many chinese canadians were asking for it because they knew what was coming.

[ajl]

There are lots of reports of people flying back in here and declaring themselves essential workers and heading home or wherever after they land while snowbirds and vacationers were imprisoned in hotels at their own expense.

Roxham road never stopped for a second letting untested people come through. Flights that departed for canada might have had one infected person when they took off, had dozens infected by the time they landed, all just flocking right into the country unchecked.

Travel restrictions were the lowest hanging fruit of all. That would have affected exactly 2 companies which could have been supported. Instead the infection of govt incompetence spread widely all over until we were all affected.

ccp flu is heavy in the diversity communities which don't follow our laws anyways. There is a reason why a fence appears around a church and not a mosque. Shutting down my minimal social life is not going to do squat to slow it. That is the primary reason that governments efforts so far has resulted in nothing. In the light of this reality, we should have continued to reopen rather than go backwards here in AB. Red states in the US have that figured out. Things will not ever go back to the way things were anyways with the removal of restrictions.

[jazz]

It was all part of the plan. The reason tam flipped flopped on mask at the beginning was they did not know if they were going to have significant effect on slowing the spread initially. The plan at that time was to get ccp flu to spread. Now that everybody knows that masks have little effect in preventing the spread, and their primary purpose is to dehumanize, they are now mandatory. Yes these people are that evil.

There are lots of reports of people flying back in here and declaring themselves essential workers and heading home or wherever after they land while snowbirds and vacationers were imprisoned in hotels at their own expense.

Roxham road never stopped for a second letting untested people come through. Flights that departed for canada might have had one infected person when they took off, had dozens infected by the time they landed, all just flocking right into the country unchecked.

Travel restrictions were the lowest hanging fruit of all. That would have affected exactly 2 companies which could have been supported. Instead the infection of govt incompetence spread widely all over until we were all affected.

[ajl]

The federal govt of Canada welcomed covid with open arms. They knew about it way before it was even on the radar in China. They brought plane loads of covid in and spread it it all over the country. Why is the govt worried about covid now when they weren’t 1 1/2 years ago

It was all part of the plan. The reason tam flipped flopped on mask at the beginning was they did not know if they were going to have significant effect on slowing the spread initially. The plan at that time was to get ccp flu to spread. Now that everybody knows that masks have little effect in preventing the spread, and their primary purpose is to dehumanize, they are now mandatory. Yes these people are that evil.

[TASFarms]

The federal govt of Canada welcomed covid with open arms. They knew about it way before it was even on the radar in China. They brought plane loads of covid in and spread it it all over the country. Why is the govt worried about covid now when they weren’t 1 1/2 years ago

[Austrian Economics]

This is interesting. Canadian exceptionalism takes a hit.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-could-soon-surpass-u-s-in-number-of-covid-cases-relative-to-population https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-could-soon-surpass-u-s-in-number-of-covid-cases-relative-to-population

"In another blow to Canada’s psyche, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States, in an April 2 update, says Canada’s COVID-19 rate is “very high” — the highest level ranked — and urges Americans against travel to Canada, specifically citing the number of variant cases in the country."

Before anyone jumps to the knee-jerk conclusion that the solution to this must always be tougher lockdowns, the correlation between severity of lockdown and declining Covid cases is falling apart before our eyes. It's time to reassess the models, folks. They just don't fit reality.

[may-be]

I am not getting into a debate but I am giving you some food for thought Chuck. These places that you mention especially Australia are islands that are cut off from the rest of the world. Their goods come in by ships and they do not allow people to come off the ships. They also don’t have illegal immigrants sneaking across their borders and stupid leaders that are flying them in.
If you want to compare apples to apples look at places like California and Florida.
Here in Manitoba the people I talk to don’t know anybody that had COVID-19 let alone die from it. But we seem to all know someone that died because suicides are up and people are getting more heart attacks because they were not getting checkups or more stressed. Also cancer not caught in time. And more suffering from delayed surgeries.
I read a while back right from the CDC website that 92% of the deaths from COVID-19 was not from Covid alone.

[chuckChuck]

Provinces are responsible for health measures and lockdowns. Once the virus entered Canada, whether from air, land or returning Florida vacationers or cruisers, then the responsibility is shared provincially and federally. Have their been any countries where the virus did not enter? I don't think so.

The whole point of the article is that if we as a country slowed the virus like Australia did, then the economy would be more open and many many lives would have been saved. Now we have a lose lose situation.

Read it again: Places that delayed imposing restrictions saw case numbers climb, resulting in more deaths.
Eventually, the alarming numbers forced these places to impose longer and more stringent lockdowns to get the pandemic under control. Over time they disrupted more economic activity than the countries that acted faster and more comprehensively at the beginning. The longer duration — and stops and starts — caused greater economic loss in the end.

[AllisWD45]

BS Chuck So full of shit

[Hamloc]

That's the best you can do there SF? I haven't seen too many debates won with two word answers! LOL

Here are my thoughts, the Federal government was responsible for controlling air traffic into Canada and therefore reducing the influx of covid variants, here they failed, early in the pandemic there was no restriction on incoming air traffic from other countries. The Federal government was also responsible for the purchase of covid vaccines, here they failed again. Our low vaccination rates have allowed a strong third wave fueled by variants, pushing our infection rates per 1 million people close at present to the U.S. and projected to soon surpass the U.S.