Is it possible to be stupider then a liberal?

[Ooofty]

Guaranteed Basic Income. Someone tell me how this will work. How well have handouts worked for the native indian? Has it not created a bunch of losers(not all of them but too dam many) sitting on their ass waiting for their next handout? Trudo wants to create a country full of government dependant losers that have no pride in their work or accomplishing anything. Kind of like himself except family fortune instead of government handouts.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I realize that your thread title was meant as a rhetorical question, but unfortunately, the answer is a resounding yes. Someone recently posted the NDP platform, to say nothing of the greens, and have you suffered through reading any of the tripe that Chuck posts?

[jazz]

Always remember, a block of voters put Liz May in parliament for nearly a decade.

[15444]

As the world gets more automated, governments have to figure out how to keep unemployed and unemployable comfortable, as to avoid social unrest. Automated driving trucks, self-checkouts, etc. etc. Every job eliminated with automation is another job permanently lost.

Unless the birth rate is going to be restricted and immigration halted entirely, the problem will get worse in North America in the next 30 years. Every major company in the world wants to know how to eliminate people and incorporate robots into their workforce, not add more people. Robots don't need any pay or benefits. Extreme efficiency is the new norm. Businesses who fail this metric will be steamrolled by the competition and just makes the urgency to adapt that much more competitive.

Likely to see a major rise in corporate taxes to pay for income stability programs.

[GDR]

quote - Every job eliminated with automation is another job permanently lost.


I get your point but personal experience has shown for every automated job lost 2 more are created to try and keep the piece of crap running!

[Old Cowzilla]

Shortage of metal workers and service tecs in Manitoba and truck drivers ,field workers,hospitol staff,carpenters the list is long. Robots can't do it all least not yet and given the amount of robots already working why do we have shortages of things? The basic income plan pegged at 80 billion plus a year thats a lot of cash don't know how those robots are going to pay for all that.

[biglentil]

Price inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply relative to the production of society.

The 'money' the ubi spends is free so the goods purchased are also free. Mr. Ubi does not mind bidding up the price because the money was free in the first place. This is the destruction of value of actual labour and productivity. This has a double whammy price inflationary effect because not only has the money supply increased. Why work when the state pays you to do nothing?

Argue all you want that automation will drive down prices at the same rate. Sure there may be some room to increase efficiency more than already has been. GL automating away the farmer, the rancher, miner, and the builder. Every single day is different and unique task that requires work and effort. That's where real production comes from. Destroy the value of labour and the productive class may just say shove your wet inked funny money where the sun don't shine I'm not giving my production away for free.

Destroying that value of someones labour is theft. Not all currency is money.

[SASKFARMER]

Look at Chuck he is the poster child for the liberals. It's that simple.

[bucket]

This is what happens when you let a trust fund kid run a country and have a journalist as a finance minister.

They think they are smarter than everyone else.

When in fact they haven't a clue about SFA.

[Old Cowzilla]

Daughter out in TO says everybody still thinks they get free money , carbon credits and it does not cost them anything. Seems most voters are just as bad at math as Justin. Lockdown in Toronto is blamed on Doug Ford so guess how it's going to play out.

[chuckChuck]

Hugh Segal a former Conservative senator and Chief of Staff to Brian Mulroney has been arguing for a guaranteed basic income for years.

Says we already have one for seniors called the Guaranteed Income Supplement.

He argues a guaranteed basic income would lift many vulnerable people out of poverty and give a lift to our economy with their increased spending. Plus cut the cost of delivering a complex system of other welfare programs.

He’s Urged a Guaranteed Income for Years. Are We Ready Yet?
Hugh Segal on his new book ‘Bootstraps Need Boots: One Tory’s Lonely Fight to End Poverty.’

https://thetyee.ca/News/2019/11/07/Guaranteed-Income-Argument/ https://thetyee.ca/News/2019/11/07/Guaranteed-Income-Argument/

[SASKFARMER]

BS Chuck.

[ajl]

As the world gets more automated, governments have to figure out how to keep unemployed and unemployable comfortable, as to avoid social unrest. Automated driving trucks, self-checkouts, etc. etc. Every job eliminated with automation is another job permanently lost.

Unless the birth rate is going to be restricted and immigration halted entirely, the problem will get worse in North America in the next 30 years. Every major company in the world wants to know how to eliminate people and incorporate robots into their workforce, not add more people. Robots don't need any pay or benefits. Extreme efficiency is the new norm. Businesses who fail this metric will be steamrolled by the competition and just makes the urgency to adapt that much more competitive.

Likely to see a major rise in corporate taxes to pay for income stability programs.

Artificially low interest rates skew the labor vs capital decision always in favor of capital and that is main reason we have this relentless pursuit of automation. If there were market rates of interest, it would not be skewed to one side near as much.

[chuckChuck]

Its kind of ironic all the opposition on agrisilly to support for poor people.

But at the same time many posters give the impression that things are so bad they are going broke and need no questions asked, government handouts? In fact many were lamenting that they didn't get Trump style subsidies. All in the face of rising commodity prices and farm incomes and rapid increases in farm assets and wealth.

Yeah to answer your question, is it possible top be stupider than a Liberal? Yes. And to prove it, all you have to do is read some of the posts of many of the usual suspects on Agrisilly.

[SASKFARMER]

BS Chuck