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Is it possible to be stupider then a liberal?

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    #11
    Hugh Segal a former Conservative senator and Chief of Staff to Brian Mulroney has been arguing for a guaranteed basic income for years.

    Says we already have one for seniors called the Guaranteed Income Supplement.

    He argues a guaranteed basic income would lift many vulnerable people out of poverty and give a lift to our economy with their increased spending. Plus cut the cost of delivering a complex system of other welfare programs.

    He’s Urged a Guaranteed Income for Years. Are We Ready Yet?
    Hugh Segal on his new book ‘Bootstraps Need Boots: One Tory’s Lonely Fight to End Poverty.’

    https://thetyee.ca/News/2019/11/07/Guaranteed-Income-Argument/ https://thetyee.ca/News/2019/11/07/Guaranteed-Income-Argument/

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      #12
      BS Chuck.

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        #13
        Originally posted by 15444 View Post
        As the world gets more automated, governments have to figure out how to keep unemployed and unemployable comfortable, as to avoid social unrest. Automated driving trucks, self-checkouts, etc. etc. Every job eliminated with automation is another job permanently lost.

        Unless the birth rate is going to be restricted and immigration halted entirely, the problem will get worse in North America in the next 30 years. Every major company in the world wants to know how to eliminate people and incorporate robots into their workforce, not add more people. Robots don't need any pay or benefits. Extreme efficiency is the new norm. Businesses who fail this metric will be steamrolled by the competition and just makes the urgency to adapt that much more competitive.

        Likely to see a major rise in corporate taxes to pay for income stability programs.
        Artificially low interest rates skew the labor vs capital decision always in favor of capital and that is main reason we have this relentless pursuit of automation. If there were market rates of interest, it would not be skewed to one side near as much.

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          #14
          Its kind of ironic all the opposition on agrisilly to support for poor people.

          But at the same time many posters give the impression that things are so bad they are going broke and need no questions asked, government handouts? In fact many were lamenting that they didn't get Trump style subsidies. All in the face of rising commodity prices and farm incomes and rapid increases in farm assets and wealth.

          Yeah to answer your question, is it possible top be stupider than a Liberal? Yes. And to prove it, all you have to do is read some of the posts of many of the usual suspects on Agrisilly.

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            #15
            BS Chuck

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              #16
              The description of basic income is a joke. We have welfare for those who cant work. We also have really wealthy people and farmers who give more than most.

              Our local guy when he died gave a million to telemiricle.

              A friend of mine folks are matching donations for the cost of a X-ray machine.

              We donate on a regular basis to different causes.

              Chuck, what have you done?

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                #17
                What is the proposed yearly income amount? Anyone know? I presume everyone over 18 gets a salary? I presume those who are productive would see theirs clawed back?

                What a way to kill work ethic and incentive. This will cause a whole bunch of chucks in their parents basement forever. Just what leftists are aiming for. Dependent voters.

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                  #18
                  Let em have it, I don't need to be a part of it. I can be my own central bank, convert funny money into real money.
                  Last edited by biglentil; Apr 12, 2021, 07:32.

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                    #19
                    The proposal is for $1800 a month. Lets see someone live on that in canada.

                    If Canada implements this it will be destroyed. The burden on our treasury and tax base would be huge. Many would stop trying to be as productive to pay for people playing video games. Some industries are already supported by EI. I can imagine most of them would just quit entirely.

                    The sovereign credit markets are already betting on a ratings downgrade for Canada. We are way in over our head on debt just like back in the 90s when we almost defaulted.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                      The description of basic income is a joke. We have welfare for those who cant work. We also have really wealthy people and farmers who give more than most.

                      Our local guy when he died gave a million to telemiricle.

                      A friend of mine folks are matching donations for the cost of a X-ray machine.

                      We donate on a regular basis to different causes.

                      Chuck, what have you done?
                      Charity has its place but If charity works why are there still so many poor people?

                      Too bad you didn't experience your taxpayer paid stay in hospital based on whether or not you received charity. That would be a good experience for you.

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